Re: [AMC-list] AMC-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11

[frank alarcon <inspectorasa50@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The guy with the Ambassador in Chehalis is the same guy I bought my SC360 from.Had all kinds of AMC parts and also had a early AMC wagon his grandpa bought new with all the options,it was sitting behind the SC I bought.He is one of those guys with a garage that is a gold mine of parts.He dosen't even know whats there.Good guy. n> From: amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> 1. Re: Hot rod 258 questions (tom jennings)
> 2. Re: full flow oil pump hacking (tom jennings)
> 3. Re: Crank compatable? (tom jennings)
> 4. Re: Hot rod 258 (Andrew Blomer)
> 5. Re: Hot rod 258 questions (Jim Blair)
> 6. Re: Hot rod 258 (Wrambler)
> 7. Re: eagle questions: valve cover interchange, headers,
> swaybar, engine paint (RAY MICK)
> 8. Re: eagle questions: valve cover interchange, headers,
> swaybar, engine paint (Russell Neyhart)
> 9. CL find 1968 AMC Ambassador DPL (Chehalis, WA) (Jim Blair)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:07:16 -0800
> From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Hot rod 258 questions
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> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 08:27, Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Take a bolt to an industrial fastener supply house (something like
> > Fastenal) and see if they don't have something similar. I know the bolts
> > have a bit of a shoulder on them, but I believe standard grade 8 bolts
> > should work fine.
> > ------------
> >
> >
> A month ago I would have done that too. Reading boltscience.com is like
> watching one of those blood'n'guts driver ed movies.
> 
> I'll continue to use grade 5 hardware store bolts on my alternators and
> such, but critical fasteners, I'm buying new or known-used-once. I've long
> culled non-perfect bolts and cleaned out all stud holes etc.
> 
> We gotta remember it's not the 90's or 80's any more, these fasteners are
> OLD OLD OLD, heat cycled and stretched. I know there's no real issues with
> the 199/232/258, I've always used used headbolts in my (dead stock power
> level) motors with Good Practice, but I'm questioning even that now.
> 
> I'm saving examples of each head bolt for sizing and such, and tossing my
> substantial collection of old ones in recycling. I don't know where they've
> been or how many times they were torqued up.
> 
> I probably won't bother with split lock washers anymore on anything. It
> seems so wrong though! I was wondering why newer cars etc don't use many of
> them; I thought they were just being cheap. Now I know.
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:09:49 -0800
> From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] full flow oil pump hacking
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> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 08:37, Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > The E-stick pump housing is exactly like the standard housing, only longer
> > (and naturally has longer gears).
> >
> 
> Yeah, higher volume pump! I doubt there's any problem with oil volume in
> this motor, but the head bleeds off an inexact amount.
> 
> I found on the motor I yanked that the rear camshaft seal (welch plug) was
> leaking. It wasn't just the rear main seal. It was a fairly large leak too.
> I think that's close to the end of the oil circuit but I haven't checked. I
> never ran a pressure gauge on this motor, since I didn't know before/after
> it would have just alarmed me. On a new motor I will.
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:15:04 -0800
> From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Crank compatable?
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> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:15, <mask1966@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I caught some discussion about the difference in cranks between stick and
> > auto cars. My '62 is stick which I want to keep. I can get a 196 from a car
> > with auto (to rebuild), but before I buy and spend the money on new parts, I
> > need to know if it will bolt up to my standard car. FYI, the engine is from
> > a '63 Classic.
> >
> >
> 
> I wish I could tell you right now. I will see if I can answer the question
> this weekend.
> 
> There are volcano butts and flat butts. The flat butts look exactly like
> 64-71 crank ends. The volcano is peculiar, it's... a volcano, and has rough
> casting visible. I'll post photos this weekend. Feel free to bug me directly
> on Monday if you dont' see 'em here.
> 
> I and others can state that yes, the flywheel will absolutely bolt to EITHER
> crank. The 8" clutch and throwout bearing assembly and arm fits and clears.
> 
> The problem is that when the bellhousing is on, we don't know if the
> transmission input shaft will fit properly into the pilot bearing. The
> volcano puts the pilot bearing about 1" towards the back of the car -- I
> think. It's critical, and you'll find out at exactly the worst possible time
> -- engine in car, inserting the transmission!
> 
> I really want to know the answer and I have all the parts here to actually
> measure it.
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:24:30 +0000
> From: Andrew Blomer <lotharamc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Hot rod 258
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> Here is just an example of a 7/16 bolt. Start off from their main page and you can go through your selections pretty easily. Standard shipping ends up at my door in 1 day. (Cincinnati)
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> Their selection for the 7/16 thread isn't as complete as other threads, but it looks like you could get something to work.
> 
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> http://www.mcmaster.com/#90201a369/=5oaual
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> Andy
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:53:28 -0800
> From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Hot rod 258 questions
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> We carry ARP ones. At NAPA but I probably have a set from the '80 Eagle I parted. That's also the best way to get rid of the plastic cover besides a 4x4 shop aluminum conversion cover. (I did that on my '82 Spirit till I do the 4.0 l head swap)
> I have the '80 head & cover up for $35. Block is still also complete except oil pan and pump $40
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> Take a bolt to an industrial fastener supply house (something like Fastenal) and see if they don't have something similar. I know the bolts have a bit of a shoulder on them, but I believe standard grade 8 bolts should work fine. 
> 
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> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:25:58 -0600
> From: Todd Tomason 
> 
> The 7/16" head bolts are hard to find and expensive. The only place I've 
> ever found them was the dealer. Maybe go pull a set off an Eagle in the 
> junk yard. You should be able to use them at least twice.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:06:20 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Rambler AMC, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Hot rod 258
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> I'd suggest getting a set of fresh matching hardened grade 8 washers to.
> 
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV 26508
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> "I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens!"
> 
> ----- "Andrew Blomer" <lotharamc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > From: "Andrew Blomer" <lotharamc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:24:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Hot rod 258
> >
> > Here is just an example of a 7/16 bolt. Start off from their main page
> > and you can go through your selections pretty easily. Standard
> > shipping ends up at my door in 1 day. (Cincinnati)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Their selection for the 7/16 thread isn't as complete as other
> > threads, but it looks like you could get something to work.
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.mcmaster.com/#90201a369/=5oaual
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Andy
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:30:09 -0600
> From: RAY MICK <rmick@xxxxxxx>
> To: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC, Rambler,
> Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: FordManTED@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] eagle questions: valve cover interchange,
> headers, swaybar, engine paint
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> A great place for Eagle info is the http://www.amceaglenest.com/ Tons of info on eagles and diagrams. 
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Eddie Stakes wrote:
> 
> Ted below has come over to the dark side of AMC. Still a Mustang guy, and we used to cross paths thru decades here at swap meets in Texas, Pate, Astrodome Autorama, Del Mar, Conroe, Traders Village to name a handful. He is now fooling with Eagles up there, and has a battery of questions about Eagles, including getting away from the plastic valve cover to a metal one; headers; engine paint; sway bar kit; to hopefully some of you who can help with speak up. I have 4 Eagles, a 81, 82 and 2 88's we drive daily in Houston, and good to see more people picking up the collectible Eagle series, as they are great cars.
> 
> So if anyone here can help Ted, please feel free to reply and thanks in advance to all who might, be sure to copy your reply also to him he would appreciate it!
> ==================================
> 
> 
> FordManTED@xxxxxxx
> Ted up in frozen Wisconsin.
> ====================================
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> Eddie Stakes
> 713.464.8825
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> www.planethoustonamx.com
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> Ray Mick
> The older I get the faster I was.
> Somewhere in Kansas
> 
> See my AMC's @
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> www.midamericaamc.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:02:43 -0500
> From: Russell Neyhart <rtneyhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC, Rambler,
> Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, fordmanted@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] eagle questions: valve cover interchange,
> headers, swaybar, engine paint
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> Hi Ted,
> 
> I cannot say if Addco still makes the sway bars, but they are still 
> listed on their Web site and are also listed on Summit Racing's Web 
> site. When I had my '88 Eagle wagon I used Addco front and rear sway 
> bars, KYB GR-2 shocks and Jeep Cherokee alloys with Bridgestone Potenza 
> tires a bit wider and lower in profile than stock. The only thing I had 
> that I didn't install was a quick ratio steering box (Buick Regal 
> GN/Pontiac Trans Am, etc.). It was nice to drive with the OE box, but 
> I'll bet it would have been a bit nicer with the quick ratio one.
> 
> Russ (from Pa.)
> 
> Eddie Stakes wrote:
> > Ted below has come over to the dark side of AMC. Still a Mustang guy, 
> > and we used to cross paths thru decades here at swap meets in Texas, 
> > Pate, Astrodome Autorama, Del Mar, Conroe, Traders Village to name a 
> > handful. He is now fooling with Eagles up there, and has a battery of 
> > questions about Eagles, including getting away from the plastic valve 
> > cover to a metal one; headers; engine paint; sway bar kit; to 
> > hopefully some of you who can help with speak up. I have 4 Eagles, a 
> > 81, 82 and 2 88's we drive daily in Houston, and good to see more 
> > people picking up the collectible Eagle series, as they are great cars.
> >
> > So if anyone here can help Ted, please feel free to reply and thanks 
> > in advance to all who might, be sure to copy your reply also to him he 
> > would appreciate it!
> > ==================================
> >
> > HI Eddie- I bought ebay items from you and you mentioned that you 
> > installed earlier chrome cover that had mounting holes and some did 
> > not match head but you said you got it to work. Will I still have PCV 
> > frt valve in new cover and do I drill grommet holes for 2 studs or do 
> > I remove them.If possible- Don't want to take head off to drill all 
> > holes to match v/cover. I can use new Permatex spray gskt sealer 
> > (cost close to $15.00). I don't mind a few holes not used if new 
> > chrome valve cover will seal. If you ever need new billet 258 HEI 
> > dist. I found supplier for 84.95 plus $10 S&H instead of 109.95 plus 
> > higher S&H. Have you ever tried to put 1988 Jeep 4WD headers on 1984 
> > AMC Eagle with P/S and did they clear frame or did you modify shape? I 
> > am also installing alum. intake with small 4 V Holley along with HEI 
> > dist., T/chain set and new dual exhaust system in the spring. Took 
> > all emission junk off and fuel junk so as to clean up engine area. 
> > What color was original engine paint? Last but not least; I got beat 
> > out of Ebay over $1.00 last month for original rear 4WD sway bar kit 
> > and do you have one or know where I could get one or a panard rod to 
> > stabilize rear end handling. Does ADDCO still make one or any other 
> > mfg? Appreciate your
> > time and help and keep up the good work. I got some items from Mike 
> > in NV. Thanks for your help and info. If you ever need Ford/Mustang 
> > help or parts-let me know(50 + years). Got to go get heart stent put 
> > in next month-pray for me. GOD BLESS Love in 
> > Christ-TED"FORDMAN"EHRHARDT PS -Sure miss Texas swap meets-Bought 
> > thousands of dollars and saved a lot of money plus made some.
> >
> > FordManTED@xxxxxxx
> > Ted up in frozen Wisconsin.
> > ====================================
> >
> > Eddie Stakes
> > 713.464.8825
> > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.planethoustonamx.com
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:18:43 -0800
> From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-list] CL find 1968 AMC Ambassador DPL (Chehalis, WA)
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> Visit the posting at http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1584294463.html to contact the person who posted this.
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> 
> 1968 AMC Ambassador DPL
> 
> Date: 2010-02-03, 11:01AM
> 
> 
> 
> 1968 AMC Ambassador DPL two door hardtop. The car originally has a 290
> with an automatic transmission. The engine is out of the car because I
> just had it rebuilt by britco automotive and have almost $3,000 into
> the completely rebuilt motor, and have all the paperwork. The car has a
> tiny rust spot a little smaller than the size of a dime in the rear
> quarter panel. solid floorboards and trunk. Pretty straight body as
> well. Interior needs a little work, but not too bad. I am asking $3,500
> for the car and original engine. I would also sell the car for $2,200
> without the engine. Would consider trades for 1967-1970 mercury cougar,
> 1966-1970 fairlane/torino or possibly another amc or late 60's ford
> cars. I have pictures but are too large to fit on craigslist, can email
> them instead. Any questions call 360-269-2782. Will
> 
> 
> Location: Chehalis
> it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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