Soo why no replys about the Gremlin list???? Can't seeem to get ahold of Bart or anybody? SORRY. It is AMC related. --- On Sun, 1/10/10, amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx <amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx <amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 16 > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 12:19 AM > Send AMC-list mailing list > submissions to > amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of AMC-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. WNATED: 66-72 V8 Intake baffle (the > shallow one) (Greg Taylor) > 2. Re: Swenson Rayl Motors (Joe Fulton) > 3. Goofed with the touch-up paint (Bruce > Griffis) > 4. Re: Goofed with the touch-up paint > (Joe Fulton) > 5. Re: AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > (johnbherna@xxxxxxx) > 6. baadass gremlin yahoo list (Joe) > 7. Re: AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > (Bruce Griffis) > 8. Re: AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > (wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:59:49 -0800 (PST) > From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-list] WNATED: 66-72 V8 Intake baffle (the > shallow one) > Message-ID: <62523.9502.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey guys, > Got the intake baffle identified.? My Jeep buddy needs one > ... anyone?got one available?? Tnanks! > ? > Sincerely, > Greg Taylor? > Rochester Hills, MI > 1989 Jeep Grand Wagoneer "TRMN8R2" > 330-CID AMC Stroker V8 > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx> > To: AMC-LIST <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:52:06 AM > Subject: [AMC-list] What year(s) V8s is this intake baffle > from ??? > > Hey guys, > This is the baffle we installed on my Offy intake.? Does > anyone know what year V8's had this shallow style baffle?? > > And, would anyone have an extra one they want to get rid > of?? A Jeep buddy needs one for his Offy intake > installation.? Thanks! > > http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg116/amundaza/330%20AMC%20STROKER%20BUILD/330%20AMC%20STROKER%20BUILD%20PT4/100_1568.jpg > ? > ? > Sincerely, > Greg Taylor? > Rochester Hills, MI > 1989 Jeep Grand Wagoneer "TRMN8R2" > 330-CID AMC Stroker V8 > > > ? ? ? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/20100107/b873b643/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/20100109/71d82e73/attachment.htm> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:29:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Rambler Nash Jeep and familyAMC <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Swenson Rayl Motors > Message-ID: <727211.24141.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > You usually don't count factory or dealer ownership of a > car. Factories rarely title them when they are shipped > for sale immediately and dealerships just leave the title > open when the cars are taken in trade. So you are > actually the second titled owner. If you were selling the > car that's how you should advertise it. > > Joe Fulton > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:52:26 -0500 > From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-list] Goofed with the touch-up paint > Message-ID: > <a72582d21001091352p1825e3a3mf6cf8713887c2970@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > A few weeks back I recommended Paintworld for touch-up > paint. They > were able to look up the paint codes for the Mystic Gold on > my '65 > Rambler, and it looked pretty good. I spoke too soon, > though. The > spray paint is a base coat/clear coat paint and requires a > clear coat. > That's not going to work so well for a car that doesn't > have a clear > coat! I'm thinking it would look pretty odd. > > So - if I just spray the base coast as a touch up, I'm > guessing there > will be problems, right? Would it lack UV protection and > fade out > quickly? Or let moisture through and rust quickly? What > happens if you > skip the clear coat? > > Anyway, picking up a compressor, gun and good paint is > getting a > little higher on the list. I want to make the car look a > little better > when it warms up. (we've already discussed that anyway, I'm > just > letting folks know that my previous recommendation was > probably a bad > one) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:08:10 -0800 (PST) > From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Rambler Nash Jeep and familyAMC <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Goofed with the touch-up paint > Message-ID: <436398.98357.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Base coat is flat. It has no gloss. > > Joe Fulton > > --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [AMC-list] Goofed with the touch-up paint > > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 1:52 PM > > A few weeks back I recommended > > Paintworld for touch-up paint. They > > were able to look up the paint codes for the Mystic > Gold on > > my '65 > > Rambler, and it looked pretty good. I spoke too soon, > > though. The > > spray paint is a base coat/clear coat paint and > requires a > > clear coat. > > That's not going to work so well for a car that > doesn't > > have a clear > > coat! I'm thinking it would look pretty odd. > > > > So - if I just spray the base coast as a touch up, > I'm > > guessing there > > will be problems, right? Would it lack UV protection > and > > fade out > > quickly? Or let moisture through and rust quickly? > What > > happens if you > > skip the clear coat? > > > > Anyway, picking up a compressor, gun and good paint > is > > getting a > > little higher on the list. I want to make the car look > a > > little better > > when it warms up. (we've already discussed that > anyway, I'm > > just > > letting folks know that my previous recommendation > was > > probably a bad > > one) > > _______________________________________________ > > AMC-list mailing list > > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:17:55 -0500 > From: johnbherna@xxxxxxx > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > Message-ID: <8CC5F90BA4E7E75-8738-14DBD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; > format=flowed > > I have a 1967 Rambler Rebel 770 Wagon. I have silver > window cranks > with chrome knobs. I purchased on Ebay some 1966 > window cranks that > have different handles but same knobs. I need to > remove the knobs from > those handles and install them on my original handles that > are missing > the knobs. > > What is the easiest the method to remove the knobs and > install them on > my handles. > > Both are in great shape. > > Thanks, > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2010 12:00 pm > Subject: AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > > Send AMC-list mailing list submissions to > amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of AMC-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1 more day and more coming... (Richard > Estermyer) > 2. Nash trucks (mask1966@xxxxxxx) > 3. Swenson Rayl Motors (Armand Eshleman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:13:13 -0500 > From: Richard Estermyer <javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: amc mail <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-list] 1 more day and more coming... > Message-ID: <BAY144-W1825BD3CECE21C0754E74FDD6F0@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > One day left on e-bay with the great spring cleaning > prices. Also will > shortly have a sample of new Dealership Name License Plate > Frames. IF > interested, let me know who your dealer was and see what we > can create. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130356445092&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT > > Cool 72 cardboard Gremlin cut out promo piece. > > Blessings, > Richard > Richard Estermyer > > javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx > www.a70sthingautomobilia.com > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM > protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/201 > 00108/e158093c/attachment.htm> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:25:48 -0500 > From: mask1966@xxxxxxx > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [AMC-list] Nash trucks > Message-ID: <8CC5F78AEF46310-942C-DFC4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Not one, but THREE on e-pay right now............Items #s > 300384324504, > 170429627084, and 250560101808. > > Mike K. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/201 > 00109/1f7f91a8/attachment.htm> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:56:37 -0600 > From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-list] Swenson Rayl Motors > Message-ID: <00bd01ca9165$dce68620$04fea8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: > text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I found a photo > http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/StudePackMIthruNV.htm#MN of > the > early days of the dealership where the white 70 Javelin I > am the > caretaker > of was originally sold. > When the Javelin was sold either in December 69 or sometime > in early > 1970, > the dealership was known as Bob Rayl Motors. > Mr. Rayl (correctly spelled Rayl not Rayle, I graduated > with his > daughter) > bought out Mr. Swenson I think in the 60s sometime. > A fella named Bob Edwards was the shop manager. He was > pretty > knowledgeable > on AMC performance, because Mr. Rayl's two sons messed > around with 68/69 > AMXs. The sons may have worked on the cars too, but I'm > guessing Mr. > Edwards > did the majority of the work. The two sons raced at Thunder > Valley > Dragways > just outside of Marion, SD. I suspect they were also > routinely street > racing the AMXs and surprising a few big three cars in the > process. I > remember a conversation I had with Mr. Edwards one day > about there used > to > be a tunnel ram laying around the shop that was from one of > the AMXs. > > Anyway the white Javelin was ordered by a traveling > salesman, wish I > knew > his name, he traded the car back in to Bob Rayl Motors in > early 72 > sometime. > I bought it in May of 72 from Mr. Rayl. Traded in a POS > S#@Tvelle that > had > the crap ran out of it before I even got a hold of it. The > white > Javelin was > my daily driver until the late 70s. I am the fifth owner. > 1. AMC > 2. Bob Rayl Motors > 3. salesman guy > 4. Bob Rayl Motors > 5. me > or as we usually refer to it, the second owner. > > Thought you guys might enjoy a bit of history this > Saturday. > > Regretfully I removed the Bob Rayl Motors sticker off the > car way back > when. > I have been trying to get one from Mr. Rayl's daughter for > several > years. So > far no luck. > > Armand > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > End of AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > **************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:20:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx > Subject: [AMC-list] baadass gremlin yahoo list > Message-ID: <937015.13704.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Anybody know what happened to it????? Suddenly over a week > ago...NOTHING and i tried to rejoin...with NO replies??? > Emailed Bart...if i have the correct address,,,,,NO replies > either?? AMC content..can't WAIT till spring to get my 67 > Ambassador convertible out...FINALLY. It's been parked over > a year now...got the body/paint all done last winter!!!! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:49:24 -0500 > From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > Message-ID: > <a72582d21001091449n6eb2372budb5dee9289c9e7f2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think the easiest way would be to send the wagon to me in > Georgia. > Rebel wagons are cool! > > Wish I had a better answer, but... > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:17 PM, <johnbherna@xxxxxxx> > wrote: > > I have a 1967 Rambler Rebel 770 Wagon. ?I have silver > window cranks with > > chrome knobs. ?I purchased on Ebay some 1966 window > cranks that have > > different handles but same knobs. ?I need to remove > the knobs from those > > handles and install them on my original handles that > are missing the knobs. > > > > What is the easiest the method to remove the knobs and > install them on my > > handles. > > > > Both are in great shape. > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:18:10 +0000 > From: wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > Message-ID: > <274669445-1263082605-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1894334023-@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > That's a tough one as the knob pins are ridged and tapered. > They are by design not intended to ever be removed. > My only thought would be to try drilling > the head off that pin from the backside. Next you would need > to carefully need to drill out the rest of the pin. > You'd also need to find replacement pins > to press in or thread the knob to use a button head bolt to > hold the knobs in. > > I'd suggest contacting a few AMC vendors > to look for the correct knobs. Or get some junk knobs to > practice on. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S. > Cellular > > -----Original Message----- > From: johnbherna@xxxxxxx > Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:17:55 > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > > I have a 1967 Rambler Rebel 770 Wagon. I have silver > window cranks > with chrome knobs. I purchased on Ebay some 1966 > window cranks that > have different handles but same knobs. I need to > remove the knobs from > those handles and install them on my original handles that > are missing > the knobs. > > What is the easiest the method to remove the knobs and > install them on > my handles. > > Both are in great shape. > > Thanks, > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2010 12:00 pm > Subject: AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > > Send AMC-list mailing list submissions to > amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of AMC-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1 more day and more coming... (Richard > Estermyer) > 2. Nash trucks (mask1966@xxxxxxx) > 3. Swenson Rayl Motors (Armand Eshleman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:13:13 -0500 > From: Richard Estermyer <javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: amc mail <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-list] 1 more day and more coming... > Message-ID: <BAY144-W1825BD3CECE21C0754E74FDD6F0@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > One day left on e-bay with the great spring cleaning > prices. Also will > shortly have a sample of new Dealership Name License Plate > Frames. IF > interested, let me know who your dealer was and see what we > can create. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130356445092&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT > > Cool 72 cardboard Gremlin cut out promo piece. > > Blessings, > Richard > Richard Estermyer > > javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx > www.a70sthingautomobilia.com > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM > protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/201 > 00108/e158093c/attachment.htm> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:25:48 -0500 > From: mask1966@xxxxxxx > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [AMC-list] Nash trucks > Message-ID: <8CC5F78AEF46310-942C-DFC4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Not one, but THREE on e-pay right now............Items #s > 300384324504, > 170429627084, and 250560101808. > > Mike K. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/201 > 00109/1f7f91a8/attachment.htm> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:56:37 -0600 > From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-list] Swenson Rayl Motors > Message-ID: <00bd01ca9165$dce68620$04fea8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: > text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I found a photo > http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/StudePackMIthruNV.htm#MN of > the > early days of the dealership where the white 70 Javelin I > am the > caretaker > of was originally sold. > When the Javelin was sold either in December 69 or sometime > in early > 1970, > the dealership was known as Bob Rayl Motors. > Mr. Rayl (correctly spelled Rayl not Rayle, I graduated > with his > daughter) > bought out Mr. Swenson I think in the 60s sometime. > A fella named Bob Edwards was the shop manager. He was > pretty > knowledgeable > on AMC performance, because Mr. Rayl's two sons messed > around with 68/69 > AMXs. The sons may have worked on the cars too, but I'm > guessing Mr. > Edwards > did the majority of the work. The two sons raced at Thunder > Valley > Dragways > just outside of Marion, SD. I suspect they were also > routinely street > racing the AMXs and surprising a few big three cars in the > process. I > remember a conversation I had with Mr. Edwards one day > about there used > to > be a tunnel ram laying around the shop that was from one of > the AMXs. > > Anyway the white Javelin was ordered by a traveling > salesman, wish I > knew > his name, he traded the car back in to Bob Rayl Motors in > early 72 > sometime. > I bought it in May of 72 from Mr. Rayl. Traded in a POS > S#@Tvelle that > had > the crap ran out of it before I even got a hold of it. The > white > Javelin was > my daily driver until the late 70s. I am the fifth owner. > 1. AMC > 2. Bob Rayl Motors > 3. salesman guy > 4. Bob Rayl Motors > 5. me > or as we usually refer to it, the second owner. > > Thought you guys might enjoy a bit of history this > Saturday. > > Regretfully I removed the Bob Rayl Motors sticker off the > car way back > when. > I have been trying to get one from Mr. Rayl's daughter for > several > years. So > far no luck. > > Armand > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > End of AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 > **************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > End of AMC-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 16 > **************************************** > _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com