You usually don't count factory or dealer ownership of a car. Factories rarely title them when they are shipped for sale immediately and dealerships just leave the title open when the cars are taken in trade. So you are actually the second titled owner. If you were selling the car that's how you should advertise it. Joe Fulton _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com