On behalf of the Nor Cal AMC's may I wish all a very Merry Christmas and hope you have a great New Years. Nolan Dehner Nor Cal AMCs Windsor, Ca In a message dated 12/25/2009 7:27:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Send AMC-list mailing list submissions to amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMC-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Interesting item in A.M.C.... (Frank Swygert) 2. Re: Interesting item in A.M.C.... (Frank Swygert) 3. Re: Interesting item in A.M.C.... (Frank Swygert) 4. Re: Fw: Machine Parts/unibody interchange question (Frank Swygert) 5. Re: merry christmas (Frank Swygert) 6. Re: merry christmas (Garry Nordstrom) 7. Merry Christmas (Mr. AMC) 8. And a Merry Christmas to all! (Bruce Griffis) 9. Re: Check out this guy's... (Michael Young) 10. Re: merry christmas (wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:00:52 -0500 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Interesting item in A.M.C.... Message-ID: <4B34C594.60607@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I suppose I should have qualified that with "stock pre 64 Americans". All were 196 powered only (L-head up to the "Pow-R-Pak" OHV), ya know... And for those seeing this for the first time, that reference is to ball JOINTS!! ------------- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:41:41 +0000 From: wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx Frank said>> Of course pre 64 Americans have no balls...<< Wow Frank, tsk tsk... Roflol...taken out of context that reads bad :) -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:07:38 -0500 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Interesting item in A.M.C.... Message-ID: <4B34C72A.4070305@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Check the taper of the tierod end stud. There was a change on some vehicles, but I think the big cars all used the more common Ford type end. Not sure if GM used the same taper end or not. I do know there are two different tapers. If you have the smaller taper you could order a ream for the larger one and ream the hole out. The smaller one is the less common. That is assuming they have the same taper as ball joints. The reams aren't cheap though. Speedway has a 7? and 10? with the 10 being the most common, IIRC. They run $80 each. For all I know the Caddy has the right taper, you'll have to find one and check -- and of course report back either way! ------------ Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:35:41 -0800 From: Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> I discovered that the tie rods for my room mate's Rebel were expen$ive and not nearby so I have been retro checking more common Caddy tierods (they use the same adjuster sleeve) and idler arm (it seems very similar but hers is bent so I can't tell 100% till I have time to take it out and see) -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:15:56 -0500 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Interesting item in A.M.C.... Message-ID: <4B34C91C.7050209@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed The guy who did the work is an experienced hot rodder and has done several other swaps and similar rear suspension builds. I'm pretty sure he checked parts fit first. I might be mixing ball joints and tierod ends as far as taper, I forget now! I do recall quite clearly that the taper on the tierods are different between the 70+ small cars and the Classic. I had to do some welding and filing to get a pitman arm from a 79 Spirit PS box to fit the drag link on my Classic properly. I didn't have a tight fit all the way through -- welded up both sides of the hole and filed to fit. It was fitted MOST of the way through, at least 3/4. Welding rod is much stronger than the cast or forged steel, and it wasn't a problem. IIRC the newer small cars have the smaller taper (7?, I assume) and the big ones had the larger (10? assumed -- that's the ball joint ream choices). ------------- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:39:35 -0800 From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> I was however talking about 63 (10,80) CLASSIC, big car, not AMERICAN (01).I'm quite sure that the lower ball joint on my 63 CLASSIC has a BIG taper,and the '79 Spirit l arm I tried to fit to it the '63 steering knuckle had a SMALL taper. I might have the parts around to verify this, but I'm pretty sure of this... I hope the guy in A.M.C. did simply tighten the nut down and hope that would hold it in. The small taper will of course go into the hole, it just won't bite into the tapered hole. Maybe 64-up AMERICANs have large-taper lower ball joints. I know that 79 Spirit has SMALL TAPER lower ball joint. I tried one. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:25:01 -0500 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: rwb4speed@xxxxxxxxxxx, Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Fw: Machine Parts/unibody interchange question Message-ID: <4B34CB3D.2000603@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed An interesting question with an interesting answer! The answer is "sort of". The rails are made the exact same way with one caveat -- the Ambassador front rails are stretched 4" between the firewall and spring tower. Everything else under the car is nearly identical from 67-78 (possibly some minor changes). Sedans and wagons should be the same except for the rear floor panels, main structure is identical. The front rails will have to be shortened, but other than that will work. I'd shorten then butt weld with a reinforcement plate inside at the weld. Just cut a piece from the old rail and weld it in with a couple inches overlap on each side of the weld. Easy enough if you're drilling spot welds and removing the rail intact. ------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:55:43 -0600 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Todd Steward <rwb4speed@xxxxxxxxxxx> Todd below is looking for information regarding unibody framerails and whether they would interchange with Ambassador, even partials or whole, or if someone has stuff like this for sale. Feel free to comment and thanks in advance to all who might, be sure to copy your reply to him also. Eddie Stakes ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Steward rwb4speed@xxxxxxxxxxx I have another question for you. I was wondering if the unibody frame rails of a 1973 Ambassador 4 door would match the ones on my Machine? I would really hate to chop up my 1970 rebel SST 2dr to use it's perfect frame rails. I'm making very slow progress with the restoration. It is very time consuming to pull a car apart, piece by piece to sand blast and powder coat. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:28:25 -0500 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-list] merry christmas Message-ID: <4B34CC09.807@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks Dave! I repeat the sentiments -- Merry Christmas Everyone!! It's raining here, supposed to all day. that's what we get since it's not cold enough to snow! A wet Christmas is only a bit more preferable than a white, frozen, slippery one! I guess only to a southerner who isn't used to shoveling snow every year... -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:53:24 -0600 From: "Garry Nordstrom" <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] merry christmas Message-ID: <4CFEADF19908498FB466C60818BE4BB0@MONICA> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response enjoy it Frank, 3' of the white stuff and 40+ mph winds, nasty here, that why women do not shave there legs in Minn,,,yuk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Swygert" <farna@xxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AMC-list] merry christmas > Thanks Dave! I repeat the sentiments -- Merry Christmas Everyone!! It's > raining here, supposed to all day. that's what we get since it's not cold > enough to snow! A wet Christmas is only a bit more preferable than a > white, frozen, slippery one! I guess only to a southerner who isn't used > to shoveling snow every year... > > -- > Frank Swygert > Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) > For all AMC enthusiasts > http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html > (free download available!) > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:20:15 GMT From: Mr. AMC <amc74hornet@xxxxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, AmericanMotorsModelbuilders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, disabledmodelersgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, everythings_models@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, johanmodelsresurrected@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Midwest_Model_Kit_Builders_Club@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ScaleConcepts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, trader_alert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, UNIQUEMODELSPORTS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-list] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <SNT134-ds7FAB8E7488636A0BA4E65BF7E0@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year To all. "Doc" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/20091225/c339315d/attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:06:27 -0500 From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-list] And a Merry Christmas to all! Message-ID: <a72582d20912250706m54b526c3tce136aaa8fd532f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It was good seeing all the holiday wishes flying about. Well, a Merry Christmas to everyone out there! And if you celebrate a different holiday, well, have a happy one. Got the fireplace going, listening to Christmas music and the kids are around the tree. Time for me to get back in there! Gary - get you and your wife down to Florida. It sounds way too cold up there! I'm hoping to sneak on down to Apalachicola and over to Cape San Blas in a month or two. Merry Christmas! ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:19:31 -0500 From: "Michael Young" <my69amx@xxxxxxxxx> To: "'AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family'" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Check out this guy's... Message-ID: <001801ca8575$a9c26e40$fd474ac0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My 88 just hit 293,000 miles, but AW4 went out . It most likely never had the fluid changed , was going to ,but did not make it in time. It will hook up when it is cold but then goes out . It seems like a valve is sticking when it builds up pressure -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BOBBY DOUGLAS Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:02 PM To: mml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans. Subject: [AMC-list] Check out this guy's... My 1992 Jeep comanche rolled 329,000 miles this morning going to work... is a 4.0 5spd does anybody have anything close to this?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/200912 21/06f27b16/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:27:51 +0000 From: wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] merry christmas Message-ID: <444058188-1261754810-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1432279196-@b da372.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Unfortunately it is raining here also. With freeze warnings. Yay. So far not freezing and we should be able to travel to grandparents. Double, yay... Merry Christmas! ------Original Message------ From: Frank Swygert Sender: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx ReplyTo: AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family Subject: Re: [AMC-list] merry christmas Sent: Dec 25, 2009 9:28 AM Thanks Dave! I repeat the sentiments -- Merry Christmas Everyone!! It's raining here, supposed to all day. that's what we get since it's not cold enough to snow! A wet Christmas is only a bit more preferable than a white, frozen, slippery one! I guess only to a southerner who isn't used to shoveling snow every year... -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S. Cellular ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com End of AMC-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 57 *************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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