hi all in need a clock for my 68 javelin. if any one has a spair one lets make a deal., i don't know if any other models will exchange with it . thanks chad 1968 javelin sst ----- Original Message ----- From: amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: AMC-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 67 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:35:37 -0700 Send AMC-list mailing list submissions to amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMC-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. trunk detail (Eddie Stakes) 2. Valve seals (Bruce Hevner) 3. Wish I had this one (Thomas Garner) 4. Re: Thomas Konicki ? (Jock J JocewJ Jocewicz) 5. Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 Gremlin Excalibur on e-bay (Eddie Stakes) 6. QUESTION: Wheel I.D. (Marc Montoni) 7. Re: QUESTION: Wheel I.D. (RAY MICK) 8. Re: Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or splatteror? (Matt Haas) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:21:27 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" To: Subject: [AMC-list] trunk detail Message-ID: <8310588F7E134B8DAB9A002D06ABAF8C@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Bruce, some good advise all the way around. Something I have done thru the years is POR-15 the trunk area, let cure, then paint it body color (68-69) or splatter it (70-74). If you do POR-15 be sure to pay special attention around wheelwell seams and trunk pan, and especially around tailights. The tailight area usually didn't get undercoating, and some, like 73-74, the tailight panel rusts out really bad and no replacement is available. On trunk mats, this is usually left to the person showing the vehicle. I personally DON'T use trunk mats.......and also under hood insulation simply because I want to show off the detail. Usually judges don't mind or at least they tell me they don't mind! But if I have spent X amount of hours detailing under a hood (or trunk) I want it to be visible, not covered up. Good luck either way, Eddie Stakes 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com From: Bruce Griffis Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:44:52 To: AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family Subject: [AMC-list] Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or splatter or? Okay, I have to do some glazing putty later in the week, as it looks a little rougher than I like. I hit it with primer as there was some bare metal and I wasn't sure if I could get to it immediately. Next questions, though. The trunk was originally painted body color. Along the inner fenders there is a rough finish - I'm guessing a rust preventative or something? There was some crumbling stuff keeping water from going down the inner fender area on the far sides of the trunk. Is that what seam sealer is? I'm guessing I need to replace that. I'm also trying to determine if I want to repaint the trunk in the original color (I had a can of spray paint made up in the original color - haven't sprayed it yet to make sure). The stuff was expensive and I got it for repairing scratches and a few spots on the body. I'm guessing I'll test it in the trunk and if it matches, pick up another can. Finally - the trunk originally had a fiberboard or hardboard mat in it. The mat was past saving. Is that stuff generally available at a car parts store, or would I need to special order it? I'm not looking for show quality - just something to put my spare tire on. _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:24:22 -0400 From: "Bruce Hevner" To: Subject: [AMC-list] Valve seals Message-ID: <000901ca567a$4e0af420$ea20dc60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > One would have suspected intake seals as they are the ones under vacuum but changing them didn't help. The exhaust seals, which probably run hotter, were no >longer working right. Runs great now. Actually the exhaust seals are under vacuum too. As the exhaust exits the port and the valve closes the pulse moving down the port creates a vacuum which will suck oil down the guide. And of course the exh valve guide runs hotter which causes those seals to go bad sooner. This is an area where a LOT of racers go wrong. Not using seals on the exhaust valves can make the valves go bad SOONER! Too much oil causes a buildup of carbon right at the end of the guide. As the carbon gets thicker it can actually cause the valve to "stick" enough to prevent it from seating and results in the valve burning. I have seen this MANY times from the use of those JUNK white "Teflon" seals!! They are a "square" lipped seal and do little to nothing as far as sealing goes. The ONLY reason for using them is if the inner spring prevents anything bigger from fitting. A good way to tell if you're having this problem is to look inside the exh port and see if there's an oil "trail" coming from the end of the guide and flowing down the port. It's always been amazing to me how little oil the exhaust valves really require for proper operation!!! But HEY,,, that's just ME!!! Bruce Hevner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tom moved to Michigan and I remember his Rambler being for sale. Will have to look thru some old newsletters to see if I can find out more about him and the Rambler. On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:48 -0400 "Clifton Danley" writes: > I was reading an old Hot Rod magazine (May 1982) and in the "Hot > Rod Mart" in the back of the mag is a 1966 Rambler American for > sale - looks like a beauty - pro-stock style drag car. The ad > says "Fastest street driven AMC in Chicago-land." It's painted > like a B-scheme car with graphics on the side that I cannot make > out. Anyone remember Thomas or this car? > > Cliff Danley > Jacksonville, FL _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA namdra1@xxxxxxx or NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 JOIN NAMDRA - the best AMC club around!! 32nd. AMC NATIONALS - DATE & LOCATION TO BE ANNOUNCED AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 ____________________________________________________________ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=1JwG8cg4Gux5juPQUzVQfAAAJ1CQK0_7rxp3pSy6Q8vfnlSeAAQAAAAFAAAAAItwUD8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaTcQAAAAA= ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:38:40 -0500 From: "Eddie Stakes" To: Cc: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-list] [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 Gremlin Excalibur on e-bay Message-ID: <4FF47A680C234294931F23C04E0B9760@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original That is great looking. How many of you remember back in 1970s the Stutz Blackhawk's customized from (I think!) a Grand Prix? These was about 5 of them running around down in Corpus Christi, Texas in mid 1970s, always a real head turner! http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/elvis_presleys_stutz_blackhawks.shtml Elvis even had one above! Eddie Stakes 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "timkott" To: Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 Gremlin Excalibur on e-bay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-AMC-Grimlin-Excalibur-clone-look-alike-one-of-one_W0QQitemZ140355179366QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item20add21366 has it under grimlin excalibur. by no means something i would drive, though it would definitely grab my attention at a car show. --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Terry Atkins wrote: > > Sorry guys but I don't know how to make a link for it but did > anyone see the 77 Gremlin Excalibur on E-bay. It looks like > something out of the 20's. I don't know if I like it or not. > Looks like somebody had more time and money than he knew what to > do with. I question leaving the 6 in it but since it is just for > show I might can understand that. The interior kind of got to me. > You spend all this time on the body and you leave the original > interior in it. I would??? have had to put some more luxurous > seats in it. While I don't believe I would buy it even if I had > the money still it is something to look at. > Terry > > > > A > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/join (Yahoo! 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Visit www.AMCRC.com or www.AMONational.com . http://RichmondRambler.tripod.com/ http://Hasdrubal.tripod.com/Index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:23:28 -0500 From: RAY MICK To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" Subject: Re: [AMC-list] QUESTION: Wheel I.D. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes These are an aftermarket wheel. Look to be Western Wheels On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Marc Montoni wrote: Guys, Are these wheels really Javelin wheels? They look aftermarket to me. http://appleton.craigslist.org/pts/1417243990.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MARC MONTONI Richmond VA http://FreeVirginia.blogspot.com/ Freedom. Responsibility. www.LP.org Cu vi parolas Esperanton? I'd rather push a Rambler than drive a Toyota. Visit www.AMCRC.com or www.AMONational.com . http://RichmondRambler.tripod.com/ http://Hasdrubal.tripod.com/Index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution- Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com Ray Mick The older I get the faster I was. Somewhere in Kansas See my AMC's @ http://members.cox.net/rmick/MIDAMERICAAMC%20Folder/midamericaamc/My_Space.html www.midamericaamc.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:34:42 -0400 From: Matt Haas To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or splatteror? Message-ID: <4AE64E32.2050706@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed If you're not 100% sure you got all the trunk leaks, I would not use a factory trunk mat. They're some sort of heavy rubber type of thing that does a real good job of trapping water between it and the trunk floor. Carpet is far nicer to the trunk than a rubber mat. The heavy texture stuff on the sides of the quarter panels is a sound deadener. It is there to keep it from pinging when stuff hits the quarters. There is also seam sealer down in there to seal the quarter to the trunk drop off. Seam sealer was also used in several other places in the trunk. Pay close attention to where the wheel well, trunk floor, and drop off panel come together. The factory panel fitment is poor in that area and there is probably a very large gap (the gap on my wagon was big enough to pass a #2 pencil through and the seam sealer made a chute to direct the water exactly to where it was rusty) that may or may not be covered with seam sealer. I would assume that gap is a large part of the reason why the quarters tend to rust where they do. Matt On 10/26/2009 11:12 AM, wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx spouted this sage advice: > I would skip the color match paint for now. Once you are happy > with the work I would use a cheaper spray can. Let it cure. The > Mat will cover it. All the AMC vendors used to carry fitted > mats and the price was not to bad. You can get generic mats to. > I sprayed mine with speckled paint as it leaves a rough surface > so things don't slide easily. I can see if there is water in the > trunk. I don't like the mats except for show cars. Make sure > whatever paint you use is compatible with your primer. I love > appliance epoxy for this kind of stuff. It is tough stuff and > easy to find. Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S. > Cellular > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Griffis > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:44:52 To: AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and > family > Subject: [AMC-list] Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or splatter > or? > > Okay, I have to do some glazing putty later in the week, as it looks a > little rougher than I like. I hit it with primer as there was some > bare metal and I wasn't sure if I could get to it immediately. Next > questions, though. The trunk was originally painted body color. Along > the inner fenders there is a rough finish - I'm guessing a rust > preventative or something? There was some crumbling stuff keeping > water from going down the inner fender area on the far sides of the > trunk. Is that what seam sealer is? I'm guessing I need to replace > that. I'm also trying to determine if I want to repaint the trunk in > the original color (I had a can of spray paint made up in the original > color - haven't sprayed it yet to make sure). The stuff was expensive > and I got it for repairing scratches and a few spots on the body. I'm > guessing I'll test it in the trunk and if it matches, pick up another > can. > > Finally - the trunk originally had a fiberboard or hardboard mat in > it. The mat was past saving. Is that stuff generally available at a > car parts store, or would I need to special order it? I'm not looking > for show quality - just something to put my spare tire on. > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > > -- mhaas@xxxxxxx Cincinnati, OH http://www.mattsoldcars.com 1967 Rambler American wagon 1968 Rambler American sedan ================================================================= According to a February 2003 survey of Internet holdouts released by UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com End of AMC-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 67 *************************************** -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! 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