Re: [AMC-list] steering column and box

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have heard you can often take the end cap out of the P/S box from the AMC and swap it into the incoming box and that will remve the stops or at least put them back where they belong for AMC.
is this true?
What else needs adjusted? 

Also a source for the quick box is 93-98 Jeep ZJs are supposed to have the 12.7-1 box without the stops!
The issue there is that they only have three mounting bosses, not four.
I bought one to put in to my American and found that of course the missing boss is one of the three AMC used on the Americans!
Leaving only two bosses that will work, bad for me and the American! However the missing boss is NOT used on the 65 Ambassador!
So the 12.7-1 box goes into it, someday...

Other thing to note, since the Jeep box does not have stops in it like GM cars, when You check it off the vehicle it will actually turn a little over 3 turns lock to lock!  Since I have not put it into the Ambassador, I can not say what lock to lock it may end up at once the steering stops on the car come into play.

There is a chevelle website of all places that shows what years of the ZJ came with the 12.7-1 box.
Oh, yeah, to further eliminate soggy steering on the Ambassador I have picked up the Jeep ujointed lower steering shaft to go with the ZJ box. It appears it will be very easy to adapt it in and get rid of the DUAL ragjoints Rambler used on the 65 Ambasador convertible!

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:22:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [AMC-list] steering column and box

" From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" besides bolt pattern and ratio, you have to worry about overall travel. You
" don't want your turning radius doubled! Three turns of the steering wheel
" could mean 45 degrees of pitman arm movement or 60.

this is a good point!  amc - and more recently, jeep - typically had
much wider stops on their steering gear than most others, even gm
cars with essentially the same gear.

sometimes a gear from a performance optioned car will have narrower
stops, to keep wide tires from hitting fenders or suspension.

" Cars with short steering arms will go lock-to-lock with fewer pitman arm
" degrees of motion. Cars with long arms will take less effort but more
" travel.

one of the special bits on the original shelby mustangs was a longer
pitman arm to speed steering up.  it wasn't practical to shorten the
arms on the spindles as ford forged them as a single unit.  we
however...
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