" From: das24rules@xxxxxxxxx " " i dont think gm had anything to do with the original HUMMER. the military " version or H1 as it was later called. i beleive they only supplied the drive " trains. then later bought the name to produce the stupid h2 and later junk. " dave stohler they didn't; it was a product of pre-renault amc-owmed amgeneral. that's why it has a jeep-like barred grille. when gm bought their stake they wanted to use it in their hummer knockoffs. jeep sued over use of this trademark [yes it is trademarked] but the courts determined right-to-use came with the amg share. btw gm transferred mfg of the 6.5 to amg about '00 when they switched to the isuzu duramax, and amg has made several durability improvements over the years, but the original agreement was that they'd support it only for 10 years. reality is that they'll probably continue as long as the military wants hummers, but does anyone know? ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com