True, it could have been worse. And again, we can thank SEMA for fighting on our behalf. But yet another gripe of mine against this program is that passing it sets a precedent. Yes, it's temporary, yes, it's limited in scope, but there's already talk of expanding it. If it fails to meet its goals, the argument goes, then its scope should be broadened. If it meets its goals, then it should be extended to sell more new cars. Don't think they'll do that? Germany's cash for clunkers program was wildly successful, so they extended it, dumped more money into it. And Germany's program had no 25-year provision. Nor a mileage provision. Instead, it made any vehicle more than nine years old eligible for the premium. And we've already heard that Minis (the original Austins, not the new BMWs) have been severely reduced in numbers in Germany due to that program. Also, while we hail the 25-year exemption, there are already people who want to repeal it: http://www.southtownstar.com/business/1651203,070509ClunkerCol4Web.artic le When you start dangling easy money in front of people's noses, notions of collectibility or saving things for posterity go out the window. As for minivans and SUVs, there's oftentimes crap I don't want to see at cruise-ins, but you know what? That's what makes this hobby great: That so many people out there can appreciate such a wide variety of vehicles. BTW, how many times has somebody said that they don't want to see your Ramblers at a show among their Fords and Chevrolets? dan Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:48:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] cash for clunkers To: "Rambler AMC, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1124521669.932351246906137405.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx .comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Well, thanks for replying to my post. I'll stand right behind it. There where many, many more 80's vehicles ever produced than the earlier models. Tons of plastic in those cars too. Nothing against plastic, mind you except for what it does when it ages.... I can think of a very few 80's cars I would hate to see crushed, very few. They could have pushed the bill through without that age limit. Then what? Go look on the forums, some very NICE AMC's for sale for less than $4500. Want to see them get crushed because the owners got frustrated when they did not sell? Like it or not, the law got passed. It could have been worse. Gee, I can stand car shows without minivans and suvs... Mark Price _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com