Beaters are interesting to me in a couple of ways. (Hot rod word for old unrestored car usually daily transpo, etc). Sometimes they're "junkers" just barely running, but to me, and I think a lot of people, it isn't that simple. My Classic wagon is more or less a beater. Meaning it get beat on; I use the hell out of it. It's got flaws -- floors were partially rusted out (had factory rubber mats and leaking windshield...) and it was hit in the rear, folding the drivers side chassis a bit, there's a kink at the roofline and a buckle in the fender wheel cutout from an accident in probably the 1970's, that I never fixed. 4-wheel chassis alignment showed it to be OK and that was 15+ years ago. The car is sorta fugly. It's often dirty, and has stuff in the back. But mechanically, it's anything but junk, it's top-notch and right now would drive coast to coast and back. It's a "sleeper beater". I see that sort of car around hot rod places, they're often better cared for than some of the rods! But I just added a music computer to it, and the controls I made in a scrap of sheet steel (nicely finished) and I just bolted it to the dash. It's appropriate here, and done reliably, but it's noooo waaaay a show car. To non-car people it's just a fugly old thing; but real car people who look (or the alignment shop that sees it from the bottom) have a totally different take on it... and their opinion matters ore to me! Beaters are neater. _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list