I think it's more left handed lug-nut silliness. I've never noticed a difference in cold weather driveability between my 67 with it and my 68 without. When I put an Ignitor in the 68, that did make a difference in how it acted cold. Properly tuned, it is almost as good cold as a fuel injected car and it doesn't even have a heat riser valve anymore. Matt On 1/6/2009 8:26 PM, Tom Jennings spouted this sage advice: > Frank Swygert wrote: >> all the Holley 1909 1V carb 195.6 engines got the water line. The >> Carter WCD 2V carb didn't have it, and I don't think the other 1V >> carbs had it either. Don't know about the 199/232 for sure, but I'm >> pretty sure none of them have a water heated intake, not when the >> intake and exhaust are bolted together anyway. Could be wrong... > > I wonder what the reason/logic is? It's new-at-introduction, so there > were two manifolds out in the market on nearly identical motors (199 vs. > 232). Perceived market-use? Was some big fleet (telephone companies, > etc) demanding some sort of cold-weather thing with the 199, so AMC just > did it across the board? Or is it some sort of left-hand-lugnut silliness? > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > > -- mhaas@xxxxxxx Cincinnati, OH http://www.mattsoldcars.com 1967 Rambler American wagon 1968 Rambler American sedan ================================================================= According to a February 2003 survey of Internet holdouts released by UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online. _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list