Re: [Amc-list] Finally got the T96 out of the 62 Classic - now a question

[Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>]

The 62 suspension crossmember is very much like the 63+ crossmember for the 196. I used a couple 4-5" lengths of 2"x4" 11 gauge rectangular steel tubing to support a 4.0L on a 196 crossmember. The tubing is parallel with the CM. I used 70s AMC six mounts, which bolt right up to a 4.0L block. The lower edge of the tubing is even with the lower edge of the mount. Drill the tubing for the mounts and bolt them up. There is a hole for the 196 (which used side mounts 63-65) in the CM. I just marked that on the bottom side of the tubing and drilled for a fine thread 3/8" bolt. You might have to drill a hole in your CM. 

You should be fine with the side engine mounts and the bell housing trans mounts. I've made metal brackets for a late model bell housing and used the old style rear mounts on it. I just drilled the bell and used carriage bolts inserted from the inside so the rounded head was inside. Worked fine, and it's easy enough to bend 2" or so wide strips of 1/8" steel brackets. 

If the T-96 letters (at the end) are the same the innards will definitely change. If they aren't (say you have a T-96H and a T-96J), they may not. The innards of the J will definitely not fit others, as the J was an "HD" version with a slightly larger input shaft and front bearing. 

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:41 -0500
From: "oldcars@xxxxxxxxx" <oldcars@xxxxxxxxx>

Frank, 
   I had a good look and found that the front seal of the T96 seems to have
failed, and that is the source of the grease all over the gearbox and a lot
of the undercarriage. 

   The squarish torque tube seal at the back of the tailshaft housing was
fine - very well sealed.

   I believe that I can use a parking brake adjuster bracket from another
car. From spending time beneath Studebakers, I am pretty sure that they
have a virtually identical part, if I can't find one that is nearly
identical. 

   I did disconnect the Panhard rod and the shocks. 

   I may end up using the bellhousing from the 67, but still need to find a
way to make a mount. I did find some interesting brackets from Danchuk,
which is a Tri-5 Chevy specialist, and may end up trying to use their
transmission-to-crossmember brackets to secure the 67 bell onto the
transmission crossmember. 

   I believe that I will still try to mount the 67 199 onto the middle
(suspension) crossmember. I do see that if I can make adaptors, perhaps
from some billet steel or a couple layers of plate stock, I can avoid
having to weld in the stepup brackets from the 77 Hornet parts car I have.
I have noted that the 62 crossmember is almost entirely flat, while the 77
Hornet has its mounts at what looks to be a 120-degree angle, and the
Hornet mounts are tilted higher in front than in the back. 

   I suppose I will have to work all the details of the front mounts out
first, leaving the 62 bellhousing in place and bolting the 67 199 up to it.
That way I will know that the rear face of the bellhousing will be in the
right place, so that when the 67 gearbox bolts up to it, the 62 tailshaft
housing will be in the right place to bolt up to the torque tube.    

    I may yet try to move the guts out of the 67 over to the 62 case, and
have got replacement seals from NAPA, but am none to sure about my ability
to swap over all the internal components.

    Does anyone have parts books for both 62 and 67, and if so, can anyone
confirm that the internals are the same?

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