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- From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:51:18 -0800 (PST)
re: ups...I've had TERRIBLE luck with UPS either losing packages or SMASHING the heck out of them.
They also do NOT pay ins claims!! I try to avoid them at any cost!! Grey Hound has ALWAYS treated my packages GREAT..NO damage! Sometimes takes awhile...BUT you get the parts in great condition!! Joe
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> 1. semi OT: new toy from Hades (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 2. Re: semi OT: new toy from Hades (Joe Fulton)
> 3. Re: semi OT: new toy from Hades
> (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 4. Re: semi OT: new toy from Hades (Armand Eshleman)
> 5. Re: semi OT: new toy from Hades
> (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 6. Re: semi OT: new toy from Hades (Tom Jennings)
> 7. whew (Tom Jennings)
> 8. Re: whew (Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:46:12 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> To: strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (Strokers), AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (AMC-DelMarVA: yahoogroups.com), amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> (AMC List)
> Message-ID:
> <120420082346.1161.49386BC3000DDF42000004892215567074CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Or, how the UPS facility ate my neat toys...
> Semi off topic cause it is for my Stroker and other
> assortec AMC Jeeps stuff.
> I emailed OOPS about the lack of any new info on my Piston
> pin jig and misc tools.
> No reply, I called, Got some neat info. They don't know
> where it is. As reciever I can file a traking trace, however
> if it is not found the trace will be "closed" and
> the process will stop.
> If the shipper asks for the trace and the package is not
> found the process will automatically proceed to a refund.
> I emailed the sender yesterday and got no reply at all. I
> emailed again today and asked for a reply. His reply is that
> he is out of town and he will ask for the trace
> "later". Now just for fun I'll mention that
> earlier he gave me an eddress that goes directly to his cell
> phone so he would get it "right away". So, he
> chooses to ignore the whole issue unless I beg for a reply.
> I forget his seller I.D. but will say if anyone is looking
> at any renault/amc tools and he is in Wisconisn area maybe
> we should post his I.d.
> This guy was way nice to deal with, very quick to
> refund when he thought I had paid too much for the shipper,
> way faster to ask me to pay when UPS billed and fined him
> for packing 169 lbs in a box with 118 lb label on it! Now he
> seems to be in no particular hurry to help me get the
> package and avoid negative feedback! I really do not like
> the whole idea of leaving him negative feedback but it may
> be only the second time since 1999 when I feel it is needed.
> All I want him to do is spend about 5 minutes on the
> phone asking for a package trace.
> I did get to talk to the people at the South Charleston, WV
> ups facility that has lost the package, very nice woman who
> even put me on hold to take a look around for it!
> Unfortuneatly she did not see it! How the package could be
> scanned in and then found and need forwarded to the Fairmont
> facility only to disapear is anyones guess.
> I'm for sure back on my not shipping with UPS again
> kick! I did one a few years back but had gradualy relaxed it
> over time. Silly me! I guess it is hard to avoid as some
> people don't have access to other shippers or have yet
> to get burnt by the oopsies.
>
> I guess I can only hope it is found and I get it, or the
> guy refunds my money without a struggle if it is not!
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:57:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <559456.28392.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> You have my sympathy. I have had problems with UPS
> shipments in the past. One time it was a large AMC part
> specially packed in a wooden box by a respected vendor in
> Kenosha. NOS parts. Neither he nor I were aware of the UPS
> policy towards wooden boxes....don't use them. Their
> conveyor system has large drop points in it that will
> destroy a wooden box. I got one fragment of what he sent
> wrapped in plastic.
>
> Week before last I shipped a set of AMC disk brakes to a
> buyer in WV via Greyhound. It was 98 pounds, almost
> exceeding the Greyhound weight limit of 100 pounds. The
> package did not get there until today. To quote Greyhound:
> They needed a special type of bus on the route. Anyway it
> made it. To their credit Greyhound has never lost a package
> forever, although a couple of shipments have disappeared
> until a tracer was put on them. One AMX door I shipped to
> Mississippi was found in Dallas, TX.
>
> Joe Fulton
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> > To: "Strokers"
> <strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC-DelMarVA:
> yahoogroups.com" <AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "AMC List" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:46 PM
> > Or, how the UPS facility ate my neat toys...
> > Semi off topic cause it is for my Stroker and other
> > assortec AMC Jeeps stuff.
> > I emailed OOPS about the lack of any new info on my
> Piston
> > pin jig and misc tools.
> > No reply, I called, Got some neat info. They don't
> know
> > where it is. As reciever I can file a traking trace,
> however
> > if it is not found the trace will be
> "closed" and
> > the process will stop.
> > If the shipper asks for the trace and the package
> is not
> > found the process will automatically proceed to a
> refund.
> > I emailed the sender yesterday and got no reply at
> all. I
> > emailed again today and asked for a reply. His reply
> is that
> > he is out of town and he will ask for the trace
> > "later". Now just for fun I'll mention
> that
> > earlier he gave me an eddress that goes directly to
> his cell
> > phone so he would get it "right away". So,
> he
> > chooses to ignore the whole issue unless I beg for a
> reply.
> > I forget his seller I.D. but will say if anyone is
> looking
> > at any renault/amc tools and he is in Wisconisn area
> maybe
> > we should post his I.d.
> > This guy was way nice to deal with, very quick to
> > refund when he thought I had paid too much for the
> shipper,
> > way faster to ask me to pay when UPS billed and fined
> him
> > for packing 169 lbs in a box with 118 lb label on it!
> Now he
> > seems to be in no particular hurry to help me get the
> > package and avoid negative feedback! I really do not
> like
> > the whole idea of leaving him negative feedback but it
> may
> > be only the second time since 1999 when I feel it is
> needed.
> > All I want him to do is spend about 5 minutes on
> the
> > phone asking for a package trace.
> > I did get to talk to the people at the South
> Charleston, WV
> > ups facility that has lost the package, very nice
> woman who
> > even put me on hold to take a look around for it!
> > Unfortuneatly she did not see it! How the package
> could be
> > scanned in and then found and need forwarded to the
> Fairmont
> > facility only to disapear is anyones guess.
> > I'm for sure back on my not shipping with UPS
> again
> > kick! I did one a few years back but had gradualy
> relaxed it
> > over time. Silly me! I guess it is hard to avoid as
> some
> > people don't have access to other shippers or have
> yet
> > to get burnt by the oopsies.
> >
> > I guess I can only hope it is found and I get it, or
> the
> > guy refunds my money without a struggle if it is not!
> >
> > --
> > Mark Price
> > Morgantown, WV
> > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> > " I realize that death is inevitable.
> > I just don't want to be around when it happens!
> "
> > _______________________________________________
> > Amc-list mailing list
> > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:26:43 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> To: piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx, "AMC/Rambler
> owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <120520080026.28973.49387543000B1EE50000712D2215567074CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> A special bus?
> Must be fer getting down deep into the holler?
> Prolly one of those old International buses with the 401
> and Jeep drivetrain to ford the crick in the botum of that
> holler!!
>
> I just hate the new way everyone is doing business/
> One D**n 800 number with no way to contact local facilites!
> I got a call fromk Charleston and they left the number for
> there. When I called back and before I got the nice lady I
> got three different tranfers and twice was asked, "Who
> told you to call this number"!!! When I mentioned the
> woman who called had not left a name they seemed even more
> agitated.
>
> Comcast is the same way, Their local office is literaly
> 2/10's of a mile from here. Yet I have to call the 800
> number and talk to someone in Georgia to explain a problem!
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > You have my sympathy. I have had problems with UPS
> shipments in the past. One
> > time it was a large AMC part specially packed in a
> wooden box by a respected
> > vendor in Kenosha. NOS parts. Neither he nor I were
> aware of the UPS policy
> > towards wooden boxes....don't use them. Their
> conveyor system has large drop
> > points in it that will destroy a wooden box. I got
> one fragment of what he sent
> > wrapped in plastic.
> >
> > Week before last I shipped a set of AMC disk brakes to
> a buyer in WV via
> > Greyhound. It was 98 pounds, almost exceeding the
> Greyhound weight limit of 100
> > pounds. The package did not get there until today.
> To quote Greyhound: They
> > needed a special type of bus on the route. Anyway it
> made it. To their credit
> > Greyhound has never lost a package forever, although a
> couple of shipments have
> > disappeared until a tracer was put on them. One AMX
> door I shipped to
> > Mississippi was found in Dallas, TX.
> >
> > Joe Fulton
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> > > To: "Strokers"
> <strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC-DelMarVA:
> yahoogroups.com"
> > <AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC
> List" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:46 PM
> > > Or, how the UPS facility ate my neat toys...
> > > Semi off topic cause it is for my Stroker and
> other
> > > assortec AMC Jeeps stuff.
> > > I emailed OOPS about the lack of any new info on
> my Piston
> > > pin jig and misc tools.
> > > No reply, I called, Got some neat info. They
> don't know
> > > where it is. As reciever I can file a traking
> trace, however
> > > if it is not found the trace will be
> "closed" and
> > > the process will stop.
> > > If the shipper asks for the trace and the
> package is not
> > > found the process will automatically proceed to a
> refund.
> > > I emailed the sender yesterday and got no reply
> at all. I
> > > emailed again today and asked for a reply. His
> reply is that
> > > he is out of town and he will ask for the trace
> > > "later". Now just for fun I'll
> mention that
> > > earlier he gave me an eddress that goes directly
> to his cell
> > > phone so he would get it "right away".
> So, he
> > > chooses to ignore the whole issue unless I beg
> for a reply.
> > > I forget his seller I.D. but will say if anyone
> is looking
> > > at any renault/amc tools and he is in Wisconisn
> area maybe
> > > we should post his I.d.
> > > This guy was way nice to deal with, very
> quick to
> > > refund when he thought I had paid too much for
> the shipper,
> > > way faster to ask me to pay when UPS billed and
> fined him
> > > for packing 169 lbs in a box with 118 lb label on
> it! Now he
> > > seems to be in no particular hurry to help me get
> the
> > > package and avoid negative feedback! I really do
> not like
> > > the whole idea of leaving him negative feedback
> but it may
> > > be only the second time since 1999 when I feel it
> is needed.
> > > All I want him to do is spend about 5 minutes
> on the
> > > phone asking for a package trace.
> > > I did get to talk to the people at the South
> Charleston, WV
> > > ups facility that has lost the package, very nice
> woman who
> > > even put me on hold to take a look around for it!
> > > Unfortuneatly she did not see it! How the package
> could be
> > > scanned in and then found and need forwarded to
> the Fairmont
> > > facility only to disapear is anyones guess.
> > > I'm for sure back on my not shipping with
> UPS again
> > > kick! I did one a few years back but had gradualy
> relaxed it
> > > over time. Silly me! I guess it is hard to avoid
> as some
> > > people don't have access to other shippers or
> have yet
> > > to get burnt by the oopsies.
> > >
> > > I guess I can only hope it is found and I get
> it, or the
> > > guy refunds my money without a struggle if it is
> not!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Price
> > > Morgantown, WV
> > > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> > > " I realize that death is inevitable.
> > > I just don't want to be around when it
> happens! "
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Amc-list mailing list
> > > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
> > _______________________________________________
> > Amc-list mailing list
> > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:14:29 -0600
> From: "Armand Eshleman"
> <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> To: <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC/Rambler
> owners,drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <004601c95676$d43bfa80$6701a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> You have my sympathy too. And also I think the guy you
> bought the stuff from
> screwed up pretty badly when he shipped it, but I might
> have considered
> splitting the cost of the screw up 50/50 with him just to
> keep the peace.
> Remember I said might have...... I take responsibility for
> my own screw
> ups, and expect others to do the same, but I also realize
> that some people
> just don't have the mental capacity to accept their own
> screw ups and bit
> the bullet to git er done., no matter what it takes.
> Anyway,
> You guys gotta stop scaring us poor innocent UPS shippers
> who haven't had
> much problem with them.
> I still ship UPS just because there are so many drop off
> points in town, and
> I've had more experience with their web site.
> I'm not the happiest with their service, they dented
> two out of three
> radiators I purchased.
> One of them was the aluminum rad I bought for the Javelin.
> It was just a
> slight ding on the end of the upper hose tube. The other
> one was damaged
> beyond use, it was squashed at the filler neck and I
> couldn't get the cap
> on. I had to return it and the supplier sent a new rad out
> that survived the
> trip.
> I heard bad stories about the UPS depot in Sioux Falls, SD.
> It's located at
> the airport for air freight reasons. The story goes that
> there are several
> conveyors inside the building that move packages around
> automatically. These
> conveyors are quite a distance above the floor in spots and
> occasionally a
> package tumbles to the floor receiving severe damage.
> It's a great story,
> just don't have any real back up to confirm it. Other
> than of course I've
> received some packages pretty beat up and seen some that
> looked like they
> fell at least 10 feet. It seems that lately most of the
> packages have been
> heading toward the ST. Paul/Minneapolis area to get to the
> next hop down the
> line.
> I shipped a 115 or 120 pound package through FEDEX once. It
> was a 4 popper
> engine block and crank. I made a 1 x 4 pallet and side box
> for it, then
> covered it in cardboard. It arrived OK. Anyway I received
> positive feedback
> on it. It took awhile because they sent it slow boat from
> China and it
> passed through every depot in the Western half of the
> country. Not sure UPS
> would even consider it.
> God this is some boring crap I'm writing isn't
> it???
> I really wish I could tell you guys that I just got done
> purchasing a
> complete aluminum AMC 401 crate engine that is rated at
> 100% duty cycle at
> 7500 rpm and will produce 600 horsepower at the rear wheels
> of the new 2010
> Javelin that my team scratch built to look very similar to
> the Javelin that
> the artist drew for the infamous April Fools issue of Hot
> Rod. I wish I
> could tell you that the new Pierre Cardin all leather
> upholstery interior
> has arrived from the specialty shop, and we are looking
> forward to
> installing it. Oh and the one off special all four corner
> independent
> suspension has been road tested and proven on the skid pad
> to allow the new
> 2010 Javelin to produce 1.8g cornering forces while giving
> the smooth
> comfortable ride of Grandpa's Ambassador. And that the
> one off, no other
> like it, wheels made just for this car have been proven to
> be stronger than
> any other wheel ever made but still lighter than any other
> wheel in it's
> category. The new ram air hood looks somewhat like the
> vintage 1970 ram air
> hood but through wind tunnel testing and development our
> engineers estimate
> it will add an additional 5% more horsepower at speeds
> above 100 mph. And
> that the engineers have estimated by the light weight of
> the car and the
> horsepower figures at the rear wheels that this car will
> compare with the
> best that Europe has to offer in the line of Super Cars but
> will cost one
> fourth as much.
> I know just dreams, but much better reading isn't it???
>
> I guess it wouldn't be a new toy from Hades either but
> maybe a new toy from
> Heaven?? What do you think???
>
> Armand
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Fulton" <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
>
>
> > You have my sympathy. I have had problems with UPS
> shipments in the past.
> One time it was a large AMC part specially packed in a
> wooden box by a
> respected vendor in Kenosha. NOS parts. Neither he nor I
> were aware of the
> UPS policy towards wooden boxes....don't use them.
> Their conveyor system
> has large drop points in it that will destroy a wooden box.
> I got one
> fragment of what he sent wrapped in plastic.
> >
> > Week before last I shipped a set of AMC disk brakes to
> a buyer in WV via
> Greyhound. It was 98 pounds, almost exceeding the
> Greyhound weight limit of
> 100 pounds. The package did not get there until today. To
> quote Greyhound:
> They needed a special type of bus on the route. Anyway it
> made it. To
> their credit Greyhound has never lost a package forever,
> although a couple
> of shipments have disappeared until a tracer was put on
> them. One AMX door
> I shipped to Mississippi was found in Dallas, TX.
> >
> > Joe Fulton
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> > > To: "Strokers"
> <strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC-DelMarVA:
> yahoogroups.com" <AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "AMC List"
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:46 PM
> > > Or, how the UPS facility ate my neat toys...
> > > Semi off topic cause it is for my Stroker and
> other
> > > assortec AMC Jeeps stuff.
> > > I emailed OOPS about the lack of any new info on
> my Piston
> > > pin jig and misc tools.
> > > No reply, I called, Got some neat info. They
> don't know
> > > where it is. As reciever I can file a traking
> trace, however
> > > if it is not found the trace will be
> "closed" and
> > > the process will stop.
> > > If the shipper asks for the trace and the
> package is not
> > > found the process will automatically proceed to a
> refund.
> > > I emailed the sender yesterday and got no reply
> at all. I
> > > emailed again today and asked for a reply. His
> reply is that
> > > he is out of town and he will ask for the trace
> > > "later". Now just for fun I'll
> mention that
> > > earlier he gave me an eddress that goes directly
> to his cell
> > > phone so he would get it "right away".
> So, he
> > > chooses to ignore the whole issue unless I beg
> for a reply.
> > > I forget his seller I.D. but will say if anyone
> is looking
> > > at any renault/amc tools and he is in Wisconisn
> area maybe
> > > we should post his I.d.
> > > This guy was way nice to deal with, very
> quick to
> > > refund when he thought I had paid too much for
> the shipper,
> > > way faster to ask me to pay when UPS billed and
> fined him
> > > for packing 169 lbs in a box with 118 lb label on
> it! Now he
> > > seems to be in no particular hurry to help me get
> the
> > > package and avoid negative feedback! I really do
> not like
> > > the whole idea of leaving him negative feedback
> but it may
> > > be only the second time since 1999 when I feel it
> is needed.
> > > All I want him to do is spend about 5 minutes
> on the
> > > phone asking for a package trace.
> > > I did get to talk to the people at the South
> Charleston, WV
> > > ups facility that has lost the package, very nice
> woman who
> > > even put me on hold to take a look around for it!
> > > Unfortuneatly she did not see it! How the package
> could be
> > > scanned in and then found and need forwarded to
> the Fairmont
> > > facility only to disapear is anyones guess.
> > > I'm for sure back on my not shipping with
> UPS again
> > > kick! I did one a few years back but had gradualy
> relaxed it
> > > over time. Silly me! I guess it is hard to avoid
> as some
> > > people don't have access to other shippers or
> have yet
> > > to get burnt by the oopsies.
> > >
> > > I guess I can only hope it is found and I get
> it, or the
> > > guy refunds my money without a struggle if it is
> not!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Price
> > > Morgantown, WV
> > > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> > > " I realize that death is inevitable.
> > > I just don't want to be around when it
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:39:35 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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>
> I told him I would at the least return the $25 and pay the
> full amount we originally agreed to.
> I told him I wanted to see what he had actually added to
> the shipment before I decided how much to send him.
> Nothing wrong with seeing what the extras are before
> offering up my money!
>
> His seller id is tcd1962
>
> His latest email wants to know why I'm concerned as the
> UPS tracking page says it is in the Facility in Charleston.
> I told him the online agent told me it should be tracked
> and the package has not moved in 2 days, UPS is in business
> to ship packages, not store them!
>
> I would still not be against paying some of the extra if I
> ever actually get the stuff, it is good and he actually
> helps get the location process started!
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Armand Eshleman"
> <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > You have my sympathy too. And also I think the guy you
> bought the stuff from
> > screwed up pretty badly when he shipped it, but I
> might have considered
> > splitting the cost of the screw up 50/50 with him just
> to keep the peace.
> > Remember I said might have...... I take
> responsibility for my own screw
> > ups, and expect others to do the same, but I also
> realize that some people
> > just don't have the mental capacity to accept
> their own screw ups and bit
> > the bullet to git er done., no matter what it takes.
> > Anyway,
> > You guys gotta stop scaring us poor innocent UPS
> shippers who haven't had
> > much problem with them.
> > I still ship UPS just because there are so many drop
> off points in town, and
> > I've had more experience with their web site.
> > I'm not the happiest with their service, they
> dented two out of three
> > radiators I purchased.
> > One of them was the aluminum rad I bought for the
> Javelin. It was just a
> > slight ding on the end of the upper hose tube. The
> other one was damaged
> > beyond use, it was squashed at the filler neck and I
> couldn't get the cap
> > on. I had to return it and the supplier sent a new rad
> out that survived the
> > trip.
> > I heard bad stories about the UPS depot in Sioux
> Falls, SD. It's located at
> > the airport for air freight reasons. The story goes
> that there are several
> > conveyors inside the building that move packages
> around automatically. These
> > conveyors are quite a distance above the floor in
> spots and occasionally a
> > package tumbles to the floor receiving severe damage.
> It's a great story,
> > just don't have any real back up to confirm it.
> Other than of course I've
> > received some packages pretty beat up and seen some
> that looked like they
> > fell at least 10 feet. It seems that lately most of
> the packages have been
> > heading toward the ST. Paul/Minneapolis area to get to
> the next hop down the
> > line.
> > I shipped a 115 or 120 pound package through FEDEX
> once. It was a 4 popper
> > engine block and crank. I made a 1 x 4 pallet and side
> box for it, then
> > covered it in cardboard. It arrived OK. Anyway I
> received positive feedback
> > on it. It took awhile because they sent it slow boat
> from China and it
> > passed through every depot in the Western half of the
> country. Not sure UPS
> > would even consider it.
> > God this is some boring crap I'm writing isn't
> it???
> > I really wish I could tell you guys that I just got
> done purchasing a
> > complete aluminum AMC 401 crate engine that is rated
> at 100% duty cycle at
> > 7500 rpm and will produce 600 horsepower at the rear
> wheels of the new 2010
> > Javelin that my team scratch built to look very
> similar to the Javelin that
> > the artist drew for the infamous April Fools issue of
> Hot Rod. I wish I
> > could tell you that the new Pierre Cardin all leather
> upholstery interior
> > has arrived from the specialty shop, and we are
> looking forward to
> > installing it. Oh and the one off special all four
> corner independent
> > suspension has been road tested and proven on the skid
> pad to allow the new
> > 2010 Javelin to produce 1.8g cornering forces while
> giving the smooth
> > comfortable ride of Grandpa's Ambassador. And that
> the one off, no other
> > like it, wheels made just for this car have been
> proven to be stronger than
> > any other wheel ever made but still lighter than any
> other wheel in it's
> > category. The new ram air hood looks somewhat like the
> vintage 1970 ram air
> > hood but through wind tunnel testing and development
> our engineers estimate
> > it will add an additional 5% more horsepower at speeds
> above 100 mph. And
> > that the engineers have estimated by the light weight
> of the car and the
> > horsepower figures at the rear wheels that this car
> will compare with the
> > best that Europe has to offer in the line of Super
> Cars but will cost one
> > fourth as much.
> > I know just dreams, but much better reading isn't
> it???
> >
> > I guess it wouldn't be a new toy from Hades
> either but maybe a new toy from
> > Heaven?? What do you think???
> >
> > Armand
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Fulton"
> <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> >
> >
> > > You have my sympathy. I have had problems with
> UPS shipments in the past.
> > One time it was a large AMC part specially packed in a
> wooden box by a
> > respected vendor in Kenosha. NOS parts. Neither he
> nor I were aware of the
> > UPS policy towards wooden boxes....don't use them.
> Their conveyor system
> > has large drop points in it that will destroy a wooden
> box. I got one
> > fragment of what he sent wrapped in plastic.
> > >
> > > Week before last I shipped a set of AMC disk
> brakes to a buyer in WV via
> > Greyhound. It was 98 pounds, almost exceeding the
> Greyhound weight limit of
> > 100 pounds. The package did not get there until
> today. To quote Greyhound:
> > They needed a special type of bus on the route.
> Anyway it made it. To
> > their credit Greyhound has never lost a package
> forever, although a couple
> > of shipments have disappeared until a tracer was put
> on them. One AMX door
> > I shipped to Mississippi was found in Dallas, TX.
> > >
> > > Joe Fulton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from
> Hades
> > > > To: "Strokers"
> <strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC-DelMarVA:
> > yahoogroups.com"
> <AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List"
> > <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:46 PM
> > > > Or, how the UPS facility ate my neat toys...
> > > > Semi off topic cause it is for my Stroker
> and other
> > > > assortec AMC Jeeps stuff.
> > > > I emailed OOPS about the lack of any new
> info on my Piston
> > > > pin jig and misc tools.
> > > > No reply, I called, Got some neat info. They
> don't know
> > > > where it is. As reciever I can file a
> traking trace, however
> > > > if it is not found the trace will be
> "closed" and
> > > > the process will stop.
> > > > If the shipper asks for the trace and the
> package is not
> > > > found the process will automatically proceed
> to a refund.
> > > > I emailed the sender yesterday and got no
> reply at all. I
> > > > emailed again today and asked for a reply.
> His reply is that
> > > > he is out of town and he will ask for the
> trace
> > > > "later". Now just for fun I'll
> mention that
> > > > earlier he gave me an eddress that goes
> directly to his cell
> > > > phone so he would get it "right
> away". So, he
> > > > chooses to ignore the whole issue unless I
> beg for a reply.
> > > > I forget his seller I.D. but will say if
> anyone is looking
> > > > at any renault/amc tools and he is in
> Wisconisn area maybe
> > > > we should post his I.d.
> > > > This guy was way nice to deal with, very
> quick to
> > > > refund when he thought I had paid too much
> for the shipper,
> > > > way faster to ask me to pay when UPS billed
> and fined him
> > > > for packing 169 lbs in a box with 118 lb
> label on it! Now he
> > > > seems to be in no particular hurry to help
> me get the
> > > > package and avoid negative feedback! I
> really do not like
> > > > the whole idea of leaving him negative
> feedback but it may
> > > > be only the second time since 1999 when I
> feel it is needed.
> > > > All I want him to do is spend about 5
> minutes on the
> > > > phone asking for a package trace.
> > > > I did get to talk to the people at the South
> Charleston, WV
> > > > ups facility that has lost the package, very
> nice woman who
> > > > even put me on hold to take a look around
> for it!
> > > > Unfortuneatly she did not see it! How the
> package could be
> > > > scanned in and then found and need forwarded
> to the Fairmont
> > > > facility only to disapear is anyones guess.
> > > > I'm for sure back on my not shipping
> with UPS again
> > > > kick! I did one a few years back but had
> gradualy relaxed it
> > > > over time. Silly me! I guess it is hard to
> avoid as some
> > > > people don't have access to other
> shippers or have yet
> > > > to get burnt by the oopsies.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I can only hope it is found and I
> get it, or the
> > > > guy refunds my money without a struggle if
> it is not!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mark Price
> > > > Morgantown, WV
> > > > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > > > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac
> II
> > > > " I realize that death is inevitable.
> > > > I just don't want to be around when it
> happens! "
> > > >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:42:23 -0800
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] semi OT: new toy from Hades
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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> Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Or, how the UPS facility ate my neat toys...
>
> Aargh, what a pain! THe shipper certainly didnt' help
> things. UPS never
> does that well with heavy boxes (rules, whatever; some poor
> SOB has to
> lift the thing at some point and will drop it, push it
> under a shelf to
> avoid working with it (happened to me) or something.
>
> Yeah, maybe (grit yr teeth) sympathise with the seller in
> order to get
> your stuff un-stuck would work. Easy for me to say from
> here...
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:50:18 -0800
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Amc-list] whew
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
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> Between thanksgiving weekend and the last week of sk00l I
> didn't do much
> else. I even continued to drive my American with an
> intermittent
> misfire, I never do stuff like that (too picky).
>
> Might have found it (purple plasma running from coil tower
> to + and -
> terminals visible at night, plus it got loud enough to
> HEAR!) we'll see
> in 30 min. when I drive off. Popped the top off the carb to
> clean and
> check it, it's not that (idle vacuum dropped from 18-19
> to 16-17 too).
> Weird. Checked all the plugs AGAIN. Checked timing AGAIN.
>
> It almost sounds like carb, but more like ignition, the way
> it mildly
> misses above 2000 rpm. Pertronix plus pertronix epoxy coil.
>
> Oh, so THAT'S why everyone went to computer engine
> management...!
>
> I cleaned the coil tower spotless, still purple stream;
> added some good
> silicone grease, still there; finally got carb cleaner (all
> I had)
> sprayed the crap out of it and the inside of the coil wire,
> assembled
> dry... no sparks or sound! Sometimes high voltage makes no
> sense...
>
> I think I better find some really good wires. I'm using
> some generic
> set. Time for good silicone wires I guess.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:31:59 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] whew
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> I've got a set of Splitfire dual core wires on the
> American.
> Don't think they make them anymore though!
> I bought them at a flea market for $15 for a 80's Ford
> 300 six.
> Nice wires.
> Someone once told me they put them on a car and promptly
> burnt a set of plugs up in no time.
> I've never had any problems with plugs in the American
> and I wonder how that would be possible anyway?
>
> Is it possible the wires can be too good? I can't see
> how.
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> > Between thanksgiving weekend and the last week of
> sk00l I didn't do much
> > else. I even continued to drive my American with an
> intermittent
> > misfire, I never do stuff like that (too picky).
> >
> > Might have found it (purple plasma running from coil
> tower to + and -
> > terminals visible at night, plus it got loud enough to
> HEAR!) we'll see
> > in 30 min. when I drive off. Popped the top off the
> carb to clean and
> > check it, it's not that (idle vacuum dropped from
> 18-19 to 16-17 too).
> > Weird. Checked all the plugs AGAIN. Checked timing
> AGAIN.
> >
> > It almost sounds like carb, but more like ignition,
> the way it mildly
> > misses above 2000 rpm. Pertronix plus pertronix epoxy
> coil.
> >
> > Oh, so THAT'S why everyone went to computer engine
> management...!
> >
> > I cleaned the coil tower spotless, still purple
> stream; added some good
> > silicone grease, still there; finally got carb cleaner
> (all I had)
> > sprayed the crap out of it and the inside of the coil
> wire, assembled
> > dry... no sparks or sound! Sometimes high voltage
> makes no sense...
> >
> > I think I better find some really good wires. I'm
> using some generic
> > set. Time for good silicone wires I guess.
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