Jim, Ignore the scanner issue for OBD I as it is now a dead horse. I bought an Actron CP950 kit a few months ago for $150 shipped. It is a true scanner shows all values in realtime, turns off CEL light etc; Wokrs on OBD II and OBD I except the early Import efi. I have run scans on 98 Altima 91 Wrangler efi in the American 97 XJ Cherokee 04 WJ Grand Cherokee I have not tested it on the 08 Altima to see if it still works ok on it. You won't get a straight OBD II only scanner much cheaper and this one fits the older stuff and who doesn't want to be able to check as much stuff as possible anyway? I leaned him towards OBD I cause it is an easier system to work on for a "beginner". OBD II is more sopisticated and therefor has more items to fail. The evaporative system is a PIA,as On my WJ it will set a light for "small leak", now if it knows it is a small leak why the hell do I need the light on for more than a minute to tell me it is there? I get that "small leak" light about 2 times in the spring and 2 times in the fall, I have replaced tha gas cap etc; It is a very common condition, yet without the scanner I have to drive around wondering if something else has broken or is it that stupid "small leak" again! Oh, good I'm rambling, means my morning dose has finally kicked in, YAY! I'm not concerned enough about the CEL on my WJ to condemn it for it. Seems to be a VERY common ODB II occurance. I'm not dumping $100's into it trying to fix it. With the scanner I just shut the light back off and go. Oh, if your a doityerselfer, buy the scanner before you need it! It comes ina nice plastic case all the cables labeled etc; You can even haul it around if you want. -- Mark Price Morgantown, WV 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II " I realize that death is inevitable. I just don't want to be around when it happens! " -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> > Any is goo to me, but 91-95 is the easiest to use for a swap later. If you're > reasonably sure you're not going to be doing that, I'd get a 96-99. 2000 heads > have issues with cracking, which seems to have been cured with later models. Not > all crack, but a good 20% seem to even if not run hot. Most likely any you find > would have had the problem fixed, as they seemed to crack in the 60-80K range, > IIRC. Anything with over 100K on it has usually run through any problems. > > 91-95 is OBDI, 96+ OBDII. I'd go with the OBDII model because it's easiest to > get code readers for. Aftermarket support is about the same for all 91+ models. > Only the Renix years (87-90) fall a little short in support, but just on the > engine electronics side. Most everything interchanges on all years, so > suspension and such isn't an issue at all. > > The AW4 is one tough auto and if it's running good you probably won't have a > problem with one even over 200K miles. Just check the fluid for signs of burning > (smells burnt, nearly black just needs changing!). I've not had any problems > with mine in the Rambler and it has around 200K on it -- had around 150K on it > when I installed it five years ago. > > For stick shifts you just want to shy away from 87-89 models. They used the > infamous Peugeot BA 10/5. It has a square ID plate on the passenger side, the > AX15 has the code near the filler plug on the driver's side. It's a fine > transmission for running the highways and light towing, but isn't strong enough > for serious four wheeling or heavy towing. I would tow a john boat with motor, > or an aluminum bass boat, but not one of the larger boats or a car on > trailer.... maybe on a tow dolly, but I'd be easy on the trans then. > > ----------- > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:19:51 -0500 > From: Jim Boone <fljab@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > I'm thinking of finding a 4x4 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0; trans I prefer manuals, > but they are hard to find. Lots of these available used, but most are well over > 100k miles. > > What years do you think are the best as far as what was underneath - trans (man > & auto), transfer case, axles. Also consider what is easiest to service, get > parts for, has best aftermarket support... > > I was thinking 90-95 range. > > -- > Frank Swygert > Publisher, "American Motors Cars" > Magazine (AMC) > For all AMC enthusiasts > http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html > (free download available!) > > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list