Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Muskeeter rings,,, Ring break-in problems To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." Thanks! I'll be filing this. Uh, anti friction lube? Would you use this on a the Coated Skirt piston? So, Basically your saying you don't get assembly lube anywhere near the rings and use 3 in 1 oil in the ring grooves and let the rings pretty much dry? Call me old and unschooled on this, but I always used plain old engine oil and pretty much lubed the crap out of the bores and pistons with it. I take it I was doing it wrong? I never had a rebuild fail on me over the years though! No smokers or other failures. So I must not have screwed up too bad... -- Mark Price Morgantown, WV 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II " I realize that death is inevitable. I just don't want to be around when it happens! " -- That's correct, except the last part.. Carefully lube the ring lands so they don't abraise on start up - keep all oils off the rings faces. Run just a daub of light oil centered on the piston skirts to ease initial dry start up skuffing. The dry fresh cross hatched walls are not to be oiled either - unless you're storing the engine long term. If done correctly the dry rings will generate crazy heat against the dry crosshatch & seat properly almost instantly. Keep the engine in an effortless sweet spot above 2k rpm for two minutes - not revv'ems - just floating around 2,300. The old air cooled VW & PORSCHE flat fours had a reputation for smoking - back in the 1960s. VW / PORSCHE AG drew info from the racing community & instituted the above procedures at the Factory and for Service. No more smoking D'ubs - problem solved. A guesstimate would be that back when, American engine piston weights & ring design / materials worked in favor of achieving a ring sealing - even after a 'wet storage' rebuild . T _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list