I guess many of you have seen the "ads" on TV promoting the "Pickens Plan". If not ,basically he is promoting the conversion of vehicles to "CNG" (compressed natural Gas) as an answer to reducing imports of foreign oil. While a worthwhile goal on the surface, more investigation reveals it's just NOT doable for the average person. How many vehicles are out there for which a $3,000 conversion makes sense?. This fellow has done a good job of summing it up. https://www.cngoutfitters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86 Take a look at it and then compare CNG to BUTANOL. http://www.butanol.com/ Butanol requires NO CHANGES to the vast majority of gasoline vehicles on the road NOW. It is VERY close to gasoline in BTU content (unlike Ethanol) so your mileage would remain relatively the same. It does not absorb moisture like Ethanol so can be transported in the SAME infrastructure NOW IN PLACE for gasoline. Has MUCH higher octane than gasoline so with the proper modifications (more compression) it can get BETTER mileage than either gasoline OR Ethanol! It can be made from biomass meaning WE could make it HERE in the USA! Right now vehicle grade Butanol is VERY hard to get and pricy. WHY??? When I questioned a Shell Engineer about Butanol following a seminar touting the advantages of E-85 at the PRI show he was tight lipped answering only "Butanol is not considered a performance fuel so falls under the "bio-fuels group". There is SOMETHING going on with this whole mess that smells VERY bad on the surface (BP & Dupont). I would like to try Butanol in some of my vehicles but so far have found NO bulk sources. Bruce Hevner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://splatter.wps.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20080908/ef79a92d/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list