Don't worry about the trans flange unless it's pre 62. 61 and earlier use a cast iron center section, 62 was the first of the aluminum trannys, and I know for sure they use the same flange as manual cars -- I've swapped 63 models between auto and manual. I'm not sure if the 57-61 Borg-Warner used that "volcano" crankshaft or not, but I don't think so. Pre 57 Ramblers used the GM Dual-Range Hydramatic -- that uses the special crank. As far as I know ALL the Borg-Warner autos use a flat flange crank, same as the manual trans. ---------------- Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:32:20 -0700 From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> > > Tech q: I have a 65 American with 232/AT. Will the trans from the flattie bolt up to the 232? I really... really prefer to stir my gears by hand. > It should be 100% interchangeable, manual to auto, and 195.6 to 232. HOWEVER there was a funny 195.6 automatic trans crankshaft in some years. The 232, and manual 195.6's, the crank flange is mainly flat on the end, with a recess in the center; but the funny 195.6 auto butt has a large raised volcano in the center. It sticks up a good inch, and is rough-cast around the volcano slope and machined in the top for the bushing. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list