Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > If you think back to the first attempt at turbos in general use you notice that except for a few very well done fast cars a lot of them were dismal failures! > Mostly due to people not knowing how to shut one down and cooking the turbo or drivaeability issues the efi systems of the day could not cope with. Yeah, they seemed like disasters, and (sadly) American cars were the worst, like they didn't take it seriously. Though the Corvair did OK, and long ago! It took developmental will, cash, and ultimately, software. Hobbiests can today buy engine simulation software that probably beats state-of-the-art in 1985, for $50. Just calculating the turbo maps using clickable 'what if' probably saves a year of farting around. > Know the people that gravitat toward them are slow rpm diesel owners and kids who for the most part seem to be pretty good at understanding the issues. > I'm pretty sure that on the dealership side there are still some real good stories about smoked turbos and turbo motors. I'm curious about the import scene/tuner crowd. I'm sure that 99% of it is the same sort of crap we all did or put up with (tall spring shackles and STP stickers vs. pointless electronic gadgets and stick-on trunk spoilers) but clearly there are people doing interesting things with turbos and software. One of these days I'm gonna go to some drifter event(s) out at Irwindale. _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list