Re: [Amc-list] Jumpin Jack Flash - it's the Natural Gas

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Is NG not what the test bed studies were using in Canada?
Or are using?
  I know they were working on a pilot program that allowed people to purchase/lease units.
You pulled in to your parking space in the evening, connected and when you got up in the morning the tank was full.
usage was metered and taxed as per road taxes etc;
All nice and legal.
I've no idea as to what becaome of the program.
Just read a few of the initial blubs on it.
since I live about  1/4mile from the nearest NG line and they seem in no hurry to provide service to us I figured it was pointless to do any further research.
  Now, if I could get my hands on the compressor unit, car and lived up on the "farm" my wife and brother own. Well, lets say there free NG there...

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Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> NG and LPG are totally different beasts when it comes to fuel handling.
> 
> LP is a liquid, within 20% comparable to gasoline in BTU/lb. It's under 
> pressure, but it's just pumped in, fillup is otherwise the same as a 
> gasoline car. Max. operating pressure is like 150psi on a very hot day, 
> so tanks are manageable. Thick and heavy, but dealable, and quite safe. 
> Carrying 20 - 30 gallons in a car is doable, 100 in a pickup easy. LP 
> boils to a gas around 250:1 ratio. The infrastructure is old and loose, 
> and the tech simple enoguh you can do it yourself (I did) but it's not 
> quite legal in any state I've lived in; there's no legal place for 
> non-factory LP conversion any more (there used to be in CA).
> 
> Natural gas is a gas, not liquid. Pressures are in thousands of PSI, 
> like welding gases, and similar tank. Tanks are heavy, and a big deal. 
> Filling is slow and technically more difficult. I dunno how many CFM jam 
> into a tank. NG Civics get 200 - 250 miles/fillup, not too bad. I am 
> sure there is zero chance for a home conversion due to legal and 
> practical restrictions.
> 
> Tank capacity would probably be a factor for nationwide fleets, but 
> hardly an issue for intra-urban ones, like municipal busses where it's a 
> great match (and LA has the world's largest NG bus fleet).
> 
> Both are still a fossil fuel with all the carbon issues though, which is 
> gonna be a factor in long-term planning.
> 
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