Yeah, My laptop is password protected to keep my kids off of it! Let them screwup their own computers! I want mine to work when I boot it! Need a cheapy? Don't know how or want to build one? Comp USA has some refurbs for as little as $199. They'll do all the surfing you need. Maybe not the hot ticket for gaming. But will run circles around anything more than a few years old. -- Mark Price Morgantown, WV 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II " Chronic Pain Hurts" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Easiest solution I've been able to figure out with computers and the > internet problems is get the kid his or her own computer to mess up and tell > them to leave yours the heck alone. Kids don't normally put their personal > information in jeopardy on their own computer because they don't need to. > We've put together several computers now and it's not that tough and doesn't > cost that much for a very bad ass computer. My oldest son used his first > computer we put together for him for about six years before he built a > better one on his own. My first computer is now over ten years old and I'm > using it to write this message. Computers are like AMC cars, if you take > care of them, they'll take care of you. > he, he, notice how I snuck in that AMC content!! > Armand > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Completely OT: wireless networks > > > > " From: "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> > > " > > " Does your son have Limewire or some other file sharing software > installed? > > " Get rid of it ASAP; it is designed to make certain folders shared so > that > > " anybody can trade files with your son's laptop. Kids install Limewire > to > > " snag music files from each other. Legal? Not really. Did they pay for > > " any of those 100s of songs on their laptop and mp3 player? Maybe a > small > > " percentage but mainly they were stolen. > > > > that won't stop the kid from reinstalling it the second he 'needs' it > > again. probably the warning that he's sharing far more than the > > designated folder won't stop him either. [i get an e-security mailing > > list; there was a recent item of confidential data - including account > > numbers for some prominent folks - leaked through limewire when a > > corporate moron installed it on his work desktop, and the leak was > > discovered by someone -outside- the company. if the leak detector had > > decided to rifle those accounts instead... afaik all file sharing s/w > > has this exposure] > > > > the riaa has beek going after - and getting convictions of - music > > filesharers. your kids won't think it can happen to them, until the > > fbi comes knocking. > > > > it's possible in xp pro to close most or all of the holes, but it > > takes me 2-3h and i've practiced it a few times. [see cisecurity.org > > if you want details] and there is still some crappy s/w out there > > that won't run on a secure machine. games seem to be out in front... > > > > the easiest thing you can do is take admin privs away from your kids' > > accounts, but that means you have to create a wizard account with a > > password/phrase they can't guess or crack, but which you can remember > > without notes. that will last until they figure out how to reinstall > > the machine... > > > > sorry for the rant, but i see a lot of computer usage today as the > > internet equivalent of sleeping naked in the middle of the street. > > there is no such thing as security through obscurity. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Andrew Hay the genius nature > > internet rambler is to see what all have seen > > adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought > > _______________________________________________ > > Amc-list mailing list > > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/08 > 9:56 AM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list