Re: [Amc-list] Gasoline stinks!
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Re: [Amc-list] Gasoline stinks!



I know you had your reasons for going back to gas, but I think yer nuts....
$4.60 a gallon out there?
I'd have left it alone and worked out a fueling schedule.
Maybe a bigger tank.

:]

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Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> What else is new.
> 
> It was a little sad, and a bit exciting, when the Classic wagon was
> idling with a Carter YF and five gallons of gas in the tank.
> 
> Took longer than expected (duh), besides installing the tank I had to
> run lines (apparantly I removed it all those years ago) (it's odd to
> have a car so long that I forget what was done and when). But I ran two
> lines, the second to the return line I added for the Howell TBI system
> I'll add later this summer. No sense doing an annoying job twice. I
> bought a plain old fuel pump from NAPA, they had nearly nothing
> available, but they had one for a "79 Concord 258". Damn AMC, they
> changed fuel pump inlet/outlet configurations every year it seems, the
> pumps all interchange, I think, 'cept the ins and outs move around.
> I've had a rebuilt YF on the shelf since the AMO National in Phoenix,
> 2004? 2003?, I bought from some vendor for... $1. V8 stuff, $$$$,
> Rambler six stuff, $.
> 
> I found out why it was so cheap... ran and idled just fine. A few
> minutes later, liquid gas all over the place. Checked float and needle
> valve, all's well. Put my fuel pressure gauge on it -- it pegged the
> meter at > 10psi! Well that's no good. Off it comes.
> 
> I had a spare, rebuilt fuel pump for a 195.6ohv, with vacuum pump. I had
> a non-rebuilt core/spare from who knows what -- long story short, I can
> tell you with some authority that the only difference -- other than
> fittings and features -- between a 195.6 fuel pump and ones from a 64-up
> six is the *lever*. I pulled the lever and its spring from the core
> pump, stuck it in the rebuilt 195.6 pump, and lo! fuel plus precious
> vacuum for my wipers. It puts out 5.5 PSI. Off we go!
> 
> Oops, carb still runneth over.
> 
> Off with the top again, the bowl fuel level seems OK... hmm... oh look,
> no check ball/check needle for the squirter! So once it got squirted and
> the well filled up, the slight siphon even at idle sucked fuel through
> it. Pulled a squirter (accellerator pump) weighted needle from a junk
> YF, dropped it in, closed it up... success.
> 
> Whatever.
> 
> Am I crazy, or is 12+ PSI unreasonable on a 79 Concord six? Those had
> BBDs, right? 10psi sounds like asking for needle and seat problems. It
> also held pressure for > 5 minutes; most modern pumps have a tiny
> pinhole so that they bleed down (into the intake) after a minute or two.
> Believe me back to NAPA it goes in the AM, along with the... FLOOR MATS
> that DONT WORK!
> 
> How do you screw up a !@!@!$!! floor mat?!! Well someone figured out how
> -- make it so thin, and from a themoplastic that gets soft as a tortilla
> when warm, that's how. Your feet tangle in it. $15 for crap.
> 
> Tomorrow is maiden voyage time, when I untangle ignition timing changes
> and all that rot, and see if it catches fire, etc. I think I'll drive
> down to the dog beach (with dogs of course). Next weekend we're taking a
> 400 mile trip to a big event in the Arizona desert, it's gotta be ready
> for that!
> 
> Gasoline, eh? LP was so much nicer under the hood! No leaks, cracked
> hoses, stupid paper-gasketed carburetors, ...
> 
> For now, I just stuck the Carter YF on the old, tired LP motor, since 
> it's got
> a 1bbl cast iron manifold and all that stock stuff. I have another '70 
> motor
> which I'll rebuild and stick in later. One thing at a time...
> 
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