Re: [Amc-list] Converting to power steering from manual -- and back?

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

I looked around and the key is to figure out what box you want to have in a quicker ration.
Most saginaw manual and power boxes have quick ratios available.


--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

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From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> I forgot all about the Ford boxes!
> My brother had a 70 Mustang fastback we put a manual draglink onto and ditched 
> the P/S as it was worn out.
> it worked fine and we even had a small aftermarket wheel on it.
> Do the Fraud boxes have the same bolt pattern though???
> Should be a fairly easy box to get.
> Most any 60's ford with Ram assist P/S will have this box in it.
> if it has the right bolt pattern and spline counts it's bolt in [big if]
> 
> I have a 93 grand Cherokee quick box to put in the Ambassador.
> Wanted to use it in the American, but the bolt up pattern is missing a lug and I 
> do not want to fool with it.
> ironically the lug that is missing is not used in the 65 Ambassador, so I figure 
> it will go into it nicely.'
> I also have P/S mount and pump from a 65-68 Vigilante Jeep!
> That gives me the saginaw pump so I can drop the line pressure if needed.
> The ZJ box has the better valving for more road feel too.
> 
> I look forward to some day being able to test all this out for real....
> 
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> " Chronic Pain Hurts"
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> > " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> > " 
> > " I dislike power steering, but I want a fast box. I realize that
> > " means high force, but a light car and big wheel takes care of
> > " that, and it can't be worse than my Classic Wagon.
> > 
> > you can get 16:1 manual boxes; i have one on my american.  i can
> > one hand it at any reasonable road speed, and that includes stoplight
> > corners.  parking can take some effort though.
> > 
> > it's about 3t l-l.  ps boxes go down to ~12:1; while easier to find is
> > it a meaningful gain?
> > 
> > my gear came from an amx that converted to ps.  it bolted right in.
> > 
> > before they went to integral ps, i believe 16:1 manual boxes were
> > common on ford ps setups.  i know they lagged quite a bit behind
> > saginaw; ironic, as iirc they used saginaw manual gears.
> > 
> > " Anyone given thougt to removing the power-assist junk inside
> > " the box?  Can it be done, to convert to manual?
> > 
> > i don't see why not.  i'm not sure you can take the piston off, but you
> > can remove its seals.
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