Re: [Amc-list] 196 head bolts

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Just because we have never heard of one does not mean they do not and are not out there!

All I'm suggesting is that it be checked.
Because if it is known to be off he should be aware of it and carry spares.

This is his DD and since you also have run them as DD's you of all people should agree that it would be best to check it.

he got about 7K on the gasket he had on it.
That leads me to believe there is an issue somewhere.

I'm not saying pull the engine and deck the block.
I'm saying that knowing what he is dealing with will give him the knowledge to live with it till he does his 304 swap...

Joe Fulton just had an old block done and I believe the shop decked it.
I can't recall how far it was off, just that it was, I think....

Knowledge is more valuable then.

"i never HEARD of a warped block"

Hmmm, I must be off my meds.....
I seem to be grouchy....
Oh, well...
If the shoe fits.

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> Of all the warped 196 heads I've seen, I've never even HEARD of a warped block. 
> That's a huge chunk of iron, a bare 196 six block easily weighs as much as a 70s 
> Ford 302 V-8 block (I know that from experience -- had to move the 302 block 
> from bro's engine stand to build a 196 OHV once). I've had to have a couple 
> heads trued, and that usually fixes sealing problems.
> 
> Okay, I just thought of one exception -- the aluminum 196 OHV. It's pretty easy 
> to warp the cylinders/block on that one. The head bolts need to be a little 
> loose when it's boiled over 2-3 times, or once but really good! The cast iron 
> cylinder liners are siamesed in pairs, then cast into the die-cast block at the 
> bottom only. The water jackets are entirely open at the top, the only support is 
> contact with the head. Compromise that, run it hot, and the cylinders can warp 
> out of place. The liners were fixed in the die-casting mold then the aluminum 
> poured in. 
> 
> --------------
> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:36:50 +0000
> From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> That's an old school casting.
> I'd be amazed if it won't take 30 thou shave with no problem.
> The problem is knowing how many times in it's life it's been shaved???
> 
> I'd go to  a good shop and see about getting it milled flat.
> Your proly not going to see a big gain from milling more than needed.
> I would find someone to truly MILL it though...
> 
> The other thing in this equation is the deck.
> if it's screwed, your screwed.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
> http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
> (free download available!)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Amc-list mailing list
> Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list

_______________________________________________
Amc-list mailing list
Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list