Re: [Amc-list] American transmissions; T14 vs T96, more

[Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>]

I musta been crazy before or looked at the wrong parts --
the T96 and T14 noses are identical -- the T14 nose I have
fits into the little American bellhousing snugly, and the top
two bolts line up. The bottom two trans bolts are about 1.25"
below the tapped holes in the bell, but could be easily adapted
by milling the bell for an adapter plate.

Clutch shaft business end is 100% identical, T14 and T96.

If I did not have an OD transmission I'd dump the T96 and
stuff that T14 in there in a minute. Not even rebuilt it! New
driveshafts are a no-brainer, those work first time. The shift
levers are not in the same place, but they're REALLY close,
it would be easy to make new pushrods. I really hate to give
up the OD, it's one of the best things about this car.


The early American bell IS different from the same-year classic
T96+195.6 though -- it's a full circle, whereas the 01 has a
tin shield like an automatic on the bottom. More importantly,
the throwout lever is at 3 o'clock on the 01, and about 4:30
on the classic. I have a spare now of each type.

I am so unbelivably curious about the R10 OD unit adapter plate
that I may disassemble the T14 to see if the T96 R10 adapter
fits it... clearly the output shaft is different, but if that
were the only part I had to get... it would mean you could MAKE
a T14+OD from two of the least-desirable AMC transmissions. That
would be a neat trick. I suspect the trans side of the adapter
is funny somehow (oil port to the OD, etc). Monday, in daylight,
I'll eyeball it carefully before disassembly, I have enough to
do without more make-work.


Believe me, I will mock-up the T14 under the car before I
finish, I want to know 100% if a T14 fits into the small tunnel
and doesn't clunk onto the x-member. The T14 is a lot taller
(ground to coverplate-wise). Photos will follow that.



Got a clutch set from Northwest Trans too -- a bit of surface
rust (old! stock) but fine. Disc/plate $72/$95. TO bearing too,
I have to press the old fork sleeve on (never did that before).

NW Trans also has transmission mounts -- now THOSE are hard to
find! They had to "find those" -- $$$ :-) (Push come to shove, I
could have adapted something else, it's not that big a fab job.)

Front engine mounts NAPA has, but they got the rear mounts
wrong. AUto trans cars use the same mount front and rear. THe
manual trans has a different mount in the rear. Guess what --
NAPA shows the same part as fitting manual and auto -- more
parts-number-collapse issues? Whatever.

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