Re: [Amc-list] ZDDP Mobil Oil List

[Davis Martin <martin-davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gary,
   I know you didn't ask me but here it is FWIW. 
   Great #'s on that 343! As for storing it I would pour transmission fluid into each spark plug hole and rotate engine to get everything inside coated. I would also coat the top of the heads and valvetrain. The tranny fluid will really protect everything from moisture and corrosion. Also take an air hose and try to blow all the fluid from the water passages.
   As for good oil to run I am sure Lee has reccommended Joe Gibbs racing oil but a good much less expensive oil is Valvoline racing oil, the one that says "Not street legal" on the bottle. It has all the good stuff in it and is only about 4.50 a QT. 
    When I broke in my street 401 on the engine dyno I used that oil along with a bottle of the GM EOS. We did the brake in with only the outer valve springs then replaced the springs and readjusted the hot lash. 
   My goal with the motor was 500 HP on 93 octane pump gas with no other power adders. our first pull was 520 HP.
   Davis 
   

Garry Nordstrom <gasnordstrom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Nick: I have concerns about my 343, I have dynoes it, but has not been run 
since, on stand, what would you recommend for storage of engine till 
installed in 79 AMX, pulled 408 HP, dynoed by Line Bro in Wright MINN, Jason 
Line ranks 2nd in NHRA, funny cars, does Joe Gibbs Motors, so lot sharper 
than me, also what oil is it and my 360 is on it's way back from machinist, 
30 over, RV cam Edelbrook intake and 650.
Garry In Duluth
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick ALFANO" <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "amc list" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: [Amc-list] ZDDP Mobil Oil List


> Brien,
>
> I have oil on the way that is specific for the break in period. It has 
> approximately 2800ppm Zinc. This oil is great for protecting flat tappet 
> cams, dist gears, push-rods etc. while helping the rings seat faster 
> during the most crucial break in period. Also a formula specifically 
> formulated for hot rods and old muscle cars after the break in with more 
> zinc, phosphorus, anti wear and friction modifiers. It also has a a 
> military grade anti-corrosion additive for engines like ours that sit for 
> periods of time without being driven to protect the internals.
>
> I heat the oil up and soak certain parts like the gears in the hot bath 
> before assembly. It is also very helpful to heat the oil prior to initial 
> start up. Zinc reacts with heat bonding itself to metal parts. It works 
> best if you get it up to temp before you turn the key reducing the time 
> taken to get to operating temp. Not everyone can put a hot pad on their 
> oil pan so heating it to 180 degrees just prior to adding it to the 
> crankcase (you could use an old crock-pot) is best.
>
> Nick
>
> Alfano Performance
> 4849-76 st.
> Kenosha, WI. 53142
> 262-308-1302
> 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends
>
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:16:20 -0500
> From: Brien Tourville 
> Subject: [Amc-list] ZDDP Mobil Oil List
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> Re: EOS - engine oil supplement - Lyle 914
> 
> 
>
> Posted by: "LYLE KLEIN" kleins914porsche@xxxxxxx
> 
> 
> kleins914porsche 
>
> Sun Mar 2, 2008 5:43 pm (PST)
> A. Where might I find this EOS at?
> B. Is The Delvac Mobil 1 the diesel version of the synthetic oil by Mobil 
> 1?
>
> \\
>
> AC Delco E.O.S. 'assembly lubricant'
> Part # 10-4021
> 88862587
>
> Call a GM Dealership like Cadillac or GM Truck.
>
> Yes, DelVac is Mobil 1 Diesel Engine Oil.
>
>
> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Files/Mobil_1_Product_Guide.pdf
>
> Mobil 1 HM 10w-40 has 1000 PPM, Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 is 1300 PPM.
> The only 1600 PPM oil is at the very bottom and they are for a V-Twin
> motorcycle - at the bottom of page 2, it says the phosphorus levels in
> the Turbo Truck oil will be reduced to 1100 PPM soon.
>
> here's something interesting:
>
> [Quote]
> Originally Posted by *Stumpalump
> *
> I just called Mobil on behalf of . It got me to the top that way. I told
> the engineer what we do,what engine we use and our concerned about our
> flat tappet cams. He was very clear and consise on recomendations for us
> and this is what I got from him with a backing from his team members:
> ZDDP levels are highest in these 4 oils:
> 15W-50 Higher Mileage 1300-1400 ppm ZDDP. best oil and their 1st choice.
> 15W-50 regular mobil 1 Thats the good old stuff they brought back with
> the red top and has same ZDDP.
> Turbo 5-40 but only if you are constantly below zero. He said use 15W50
> for me in Colorado winters.
> Moble delvac 15w40 is also above 1000 ppm ZDDP and will work.
> Anything else will have less than 1000 ppm ZDDP and is not recomended by
> them!
>
> [end quote]
>
> [quote]
>
> Straight from the Shell customer service:
>
> Dear customer:
> Rotella T CJ-4 15W40 has a Zinc level of 1200ppm
> Rotella T Synthetic 5W40 has a Zinc level of 1600ppm
>
> Be aware that even though the antiwear level is high for Rotella oils,
> diesel engine oil formulations are different than engine oils for
> gasoline performance engines.
>
> Hope this help.
> Regards,
> Xavier Henry
> Technical Help Desk
> Fuels & Lubricants
> Shell Canada Products
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