I'm actually wanting to try the rebuild myself, but definitely need a manual to rebuild it. Where can I get a good manual for it? I have a manual for the car, but it is rather basic and doesn't touch on much in great detail I don't think, or maybe the transmission is just so simple, I'm expecting more. Also, can you recommend a site to buy the rebuild kit from? And what off of the transmission will I need to identify it when/if I decide to order a kit? Thomas Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:41:02 -0500 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] 64 Rambler Classic question To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <478239FE.4010206@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was referring to JUST a transmission rebuild, not the engine. He was asking about replacing the drivetrain because the transmission was slipping. $800 might be a bit low even for the trans rebuild, could be more. I did state that was with the bare trans delivered to the shop, do the R&R yourself. Been a while since I had one rebuilt. If it's not real bad I'd attempt the rebuild myself armed with a TSM, but it's a daunting task! Lots of little things, and the assembly area must be pretty clean. I spread an old clean sheet on my work table after cleaning up the shop area. The only problem I had is I worked a couple hours a day for several days -- would have been easier had I been able to start one Saturday morning and finish up Sunday afternoon. Had a couple days in the middle I couldn't work too! That worried me a bit -- it's almost like starting over when you go back in the middle of something complicated that you've never done before! Of course mine didn't work any better when done, but it had a serious shifting problem, wouldn't go into anything but first and reverse. It turned out to have a bad valve body, didn't need rebuilding as I assumed. Nothing was stuck in the VB, not that would come out anyway (even after hot tanking at a shop later). Had to replace it. In the case of slipping it's usually just simple wear on the clutches and bands, and/or seals in the servos. A simple rebuild should fix that with not problems at all, and the Borg Warner is a pretty simple auto trans. The only thing sort of hard to get in is the sealing rings in the center. They can be coated with grease or vaseline, wrapped with aluminum foil, compressed with a hose clamp (or two, forget how wide the area is, but I think one will do it), then stuck in the freezer. The grease/vaseline freezes and holds them compressed. Just be ready to install when it comes out of the freezer, especially on a hot day! The new kit rings are teflon and less prone to cracking than the originals and old kits (from the late 60s) -- they had cast iron sealing rings. --------------- Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:39:13 -0500 From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx> <snip> > > If you're using it as a Sunday driver/cruiser, I'd keep the 232 and original transmission. If you pull the trans (not that hard!) and reinstall it should be around $800 or so to have it totally rebuilt. $1200-$1500 if they R&R. > </snip> $800 is way low on having it rebuilt. When the motor on my 67 was redone a few years ago, parts and machine shop labor where about $2000 (including tax). -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _____________________________________________________________ Are you prepared for your exam 4TestsMail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.4testsmail.com/ _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list