SNIP Hey John, remember when we were all ragging on the AMC lower arm, with all it's weird twisting and the interference fit/sliding fit of the inner lower bushing? Well I'd take that system any day over this lower A-arm! You know, except from bad assembly, I've never seen a bad lower arm! They last half a century without grief. You can wear it out till all the rubber literally falls out and the parts are clunking around, yet you replace the bad rubber and it's as good as new. The strut bushings are a major PITA! but I think half urethane/half rubber solves that one. It's grossly inelegant, but subtly elegant. SNIP Tom, Time marches on and waits for no man and some how for the most part technological improvements seem to be in general better. I may bitch about my T&C with the lousy transmission reliability that I see no excuse for but the front end drive train even if transaxle/front wheel drive, is not that far removed from the front suspension design of my 80 Spirit (and all other AMC front suspension parts from 70 on) is an improvement in both reliability and performance. The lower control arm and strut rod assembly is a one piece casting on the T&C and the pivot points are in line with each other so there is no weird funky twisting action, as there is no upper control arm there is no pivoting action and most of the adjustments are controlled by the top of the strut assembly and a bolt on affair just above the steering knuckle the adjustments don't fight one another and at well over 100,000 miles the rubber is still good and the pieces are tight. My 300,000 mile junk yard Caravan needed lower ball joints and the bearing the strut pivoted on, it got the ball joint, never did get around to changing the bearing and all of the rubber was still good. Something I can not say about any of the AMC cars that I have purchased in the last 15 years, most with about 1/3 the miles on the clock. And as the doors weigh a ton and I use the T&C on part time delivery routes and on some of the routes I make 12 stops an hour the hinges still work on the door, something else I can not say about any of the AMC cars that I have owned. I dunno, some times it is fun to second guess the design concept after 50 some odd years but you really have to see Sherman and the time machine to place yourself back in the day to try to figure out what drove the decisions of the time. Probably what they had worked under the conditions used and did not cost justify a change at the time. I fellow I know restored a 1949 Nash awhile back. Something he drove when they were new. His first comment after he had it out on the road and adjusted correctly was "I had forgotten just how lousy these things really handled when they were new!" Now if I can just get around to finishing my Hornet Hatch back I would be happy. Later John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070915/f4f13ff3/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list