Armand, I sent you a reply off-list, not a nice one I admit. Exactly how do you know what led me to own these great items? I find it very offensive that you choose to openly attack me. I complain about some products and you've basically called me an idiot then said, Oh sorry..... Thanks man..... -- Mark Price Morgantown, WV 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 " I was different before people dared to be different" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Mark I really don't want to be your nemesis here but reality is > reality........ > I'll respond to your comments by spacing them apart further and putting my > answer there. > I've seen and heard a lot of this before..........and you're right it is > bull crap.......... > > > > Another thing, > > No matter how efficient some of this crap is, drum roll here....... > > > > It's still CRAP! > > > > How good is a low flush toilet you have to flush three times, plunge then > flush again for solid waste? > > > How about don't buy the cheap toilets from Menards for $39.95. Buy a good > one and you get a toilet that does flush with 1-1/2 gallons and works > great..... there's a whole bunch of them on the market, one is made by > Kohler.... Artesian vitreous china products are junk, stay away from > them...... > and besides if you take a crap regularly instead of a logger head every > other day they go down easier..... not to mention come out easier. ROFL > LMAO > > > > > The front load washer that you have to take 1/3 of the clothes and stain > stick the spots then rewash them? > > > Are you blaming the washer for a problem that has to do with less effective > detergents because phosphur is no longer permitted in detergents (phosphur > removes stains) because it is not environmentally safe. I don't care how > good a wash machine you have or how old and unfriendly to the environment > the machine is, water alone in that machine will not remove all stains, back > in the day they used lye soap............ > > > > > > The high buck bottom freezer fridge you have to stand with the door open > to get the cold water out of the tap cause it's INSIDE! > > > Once again you're blaming a product you choose to buy even though you knew > it was a bad product. Why would you buy a bottom freezer fridge with water > inside??? Wait a minute, doesn't water freeze inside a freezer?? > > > > > The high SEER heatpump that is installed with R3.5 flex duct in the attic > so you get a blast of super heated air everytime it kicks on. > > Ahh yes, this is why I live in Minnesota, we actually build houses with > basements so we can install all the HVAC equipement down there so it works > right... Once again you're blaming a product for the problem created by poor > installation...... and besides if your HVAC guy is using flex duct he's an > amateur that doesn't know how to fit metal duct. Hope he used larger > diameter flex for these ducts, flex has to be sized larger to flow > correctly, more friction loss..... > Here's a solution for you.... install the duct inside the house hidden in a > soffit, that way it won't be in the attic where it's really hot, or use a > variable speed/drive circulating/ blower/fan on low rpm to keep the air > moving all the time.... that's what we do here in MN. Our temps change from > 30 below zero with a 100 below zero wind chill in winter to 100 plus degrees > in summer and high humdity, we know how to do HVAC here, we have to......I'm > on the even pay monthly natural gas bill. It's $79.00 per month $948 per > year..... includes heating of domestic water......my house (1-1/2 story) was > built in 1956......five year old 92% furnace..... insulated glass > windows......and my house is expensive to heat/cool compared to a new much > larger house..............go figure....... > Oh yeah the high SEER heatpump is not the guilty party here > either........... they are actually much more efficient than the old stuff, > when installed correctly. > > > > > > This is all stuff I've been saddled with over the last 7 years while trying > to be "green".... > > > "Green" was like the Native Americans......(Indians) way before other folk > came here. White, yellow, black, red, all people and the current USA will > never be "green" . If you flick a light switch on at anytime in your life > you are not "green", even if you are a member of the Sierra Club and own and > drive a Prius you are not "green". Sierra Clubbers take pictures of nice > trees with a camera that is full of bad things like rechargeable batteries, > and micro electronics that when they are junk they pollute. The human race > as it currently exists cannot be and will never ever be "green". Who wants > to give up their flush toilet......... nice warm or cool house.......... > heck even if you ride only a bicycle your whole life you are not "green" > .........it took some kind of energy or pollution to make the bike. > > > nuff said........ lets get off this non AMC subject and hopefully all other > lengthy non AMC subjects, and get back to solving the problems our fellow > listers have with their AMCs. > > Sorry Mark, I don't mean to piss you off, but I have a job where people > remind me daily how bad the decisions are, that they are capable of making, > and then blame it on everything else............except their poor decision > making...... > > My older brother always said after he started working at 3M "you're either a > problem maker or a problem solver, which one do you want to be........... > > > Love ya guy take care, > > Armand > > P.S. one thing I completely side with you on is the pain thing, been there, > doing that crap right now. sick and frickin tired of it..... > > > > > > > B....S.... > > > > Have a GREAT AMC DAY :] > > > > -- > > Mark Price > > Morgantown, WV > > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 > > " I was different before people dared to be different" > > _______________________________________________ > > Amc-list mailing list > > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1003 - Release Date: 9/12/07 > 10:56 AM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list