Re: [Amc-list] Amc-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 29

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

WOW, Yuns guys write good!
It's a sad truth, most of us mean well, but do poorly.
Remember the story on how much "stuff" utilities, water etc; Al Gores "house" burns!

I try, we try. My wife and I live modern, but chose to keep our ranch house when it was paid off, instead of buying up to the house "we deserved". No we have no payments, nada. Utilities are low here in this house and once the kids move out it will be too large. I've only got 3 cars worth of garage though. Hmm, need to fix that!

I have half the material for a new outbuilding to store stuff in and it is all reclaimed lumber cast off from road shows at the theatre. Want lumber? Find the nearest university with a theatrical prgram and make friends with the tech people. They build new sets to teach and most of it is given away or trashed after use. To teach they have to build new, therefor they don't save much!

Now If I could just get this pain off my back so I can get stuff done!

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
" I was different before people dared to be different" 

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From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
> 
> >I always wondered why electricity was so (comparatively) cheap in South 
> Carolina. Well, the main producer is the state! 
> 
> 
> Yeah, on the front end.  But you can't total up cost until you see the back end, 
> too -- there are doubtless state subsidies to the operating agencies.  And don't 
> forget that state agencies also have a benefit not available to the private 
> sector -- they don't have to pay taxes on sales and many other things.  In many 
> states, that can add up quite rapidly to almost a 20% advantage.
> 
> 
> >Several dams and at least two nuclear power plants are all owned and run by the 
> state. Local Co-ops handle local distribution and service, but all buy from the 
> state and prices they charge are state regulated. CA deregulated some years ago 
> with disastrous results! 
> 
> 
> California did *not* deregulate its energy industry; that's simply an outright 
> lie from the same kind of politicians who said things like "I am not a crook" 
> and "I did not have sex with that woman".
> 
> During the 1990s, California deregulated the wholesale price of electric power 
> but imposed price controls on retail prices. It also outlawed long-term 
> contracts that allowed power distributors to lock in low prices, and it 
> prohibited vertical integration in the electric power industry. The state is 
> also famous for using regulation to stop virtually all expansion of electric 
> power supply out of "environmental concerns," guaranteeing an energy crisis. It 
> is glaringly obvious that California?s energy problems were (and are still 
> being) caused by constant government meddling.
> 
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/mercer2.html
> 
> 
> >Necessities simply need to be regulated by the government when industry proves 
> it can't properly regulate itself. 
> 
> 
> That right there is a mistake.  No petro product is a necessity.  The human race 
> survived just fine for its entire history right up until about 100 years ago -- 
> all of that time basically doing without.
> 
> There is no "right" to cheap gas.
> 
> 
> >There's enough competition in markets like food that there seems to be no need 
> for regulation. The oil market is apparently small enough for the "good ol' 
> boys" to stick together and stick it to us. Regulation is the only way to keep 
> prices from fluctuating as wildly as they have been. Even semi-regulation would 
> be better than none! By that I mean something like a law preventing more than a 
> certain percentage price hike in the wake of a natural disaster. Oil companies 
> showed their true colors in the wake of hurricane Katrina. It takes one 
> heartless SOB to hike prices way up when most of the country is in shock from a 
> natural disaster like that. There was no fuel down there for a while, so it 
> wasn't like more was being used, and people that literally lost nearly 
> everything they had needed gas to power generators and such just to survive. 
> Then to post record profits for the quarter?? 
> 
> Oh, come on, Frank.  Exxon's profit percentage no more than the makers of Viagra 
> and many of the media companies who keep feeding us this "oscene profit" line:
> 
> http://finance.aol.com/usw/quotes/stockscreener?c_mc=%3E%3D100B&f_pm=11%2C100&r_
> dv=&r_nor=20&ord_by=MARKET_CAP&ord_dir=DESC
> 
> AMC had some good years when its profits approached 20%.  But I doubt any of us 
> would have decried their success.
> 
> The truth is that if people had used the Katrina disaster to voluntarily reduce 
> their petro usage -- canceled unecessary travel, bike to work or work from home, 
> and walked or biked on errands such as the bank, convenience store, or whatever, 
> the falling demand would have immediately stabilized prices.  We all refused -- 
> you included.  None of us changed our behavior.  Why do you demand altruism from 
> businessmen that you don't demand of yourself?
> 
> If we want to look for the heartless SOB's who caused rising prices, the place 
> to look is the mirror.
> 
> -- Marc
> 
> 
> 


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