[Amc-list] NEED 195.6 (forwarded)

[Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>]

I've some comments at the end....

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerijan" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC List" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:51 AM
Subject: Need a 6cyl engine


> I am looking for a 195.6 (1963) engine..complete and running or 
> rebuildable.
> Must be OHV, and mount at the plate IN FRONT of engine.
> A 199, 232, 258 will not fit without modifications that I know of.
>
>
> It's gotta be reasonably close and discovered soon.
> I'm heading for Providence, RI (from Bennington, Vermont) Tuesday and 
> could
> collect this as a side trip on Wednesday if one 'shows up'.
>
> If rebuildable, I need bearings, Timing chain, gaskets...anyone got those
> anyway??  I'll buy 'em!
>
> Does anyone know what mods are required to plop a 258 under the hood of a
> '63 breadbox??  Is there a magical bolt in I don't know about??
>

1. If you have a 195.6 OHV or flathead with the car now, the engine 
mount plate will fit any other 195.6. The plate bolts to the front of 
the block, sandwiched betwen the block and timing cover. The timing 
gears and chain has to come off to remove the plate. So you CAN use a 
63-65 Classic or 64-65 American 195.6 -- if you have the old engine.

2. The 199/232/258 simply won't fit the 58-63 American. Not unless you 
sink it back into the firewall and lose the original heater. I've seen 
one done that way "just because someone said it wouldn't fit", but 
that's more work than I'd want to do!

3. There is a good alternative engine -- a late model Ford 200 or 250 
(the tall deck 200, made through the late 80s, not related to the 300). 
Those sixes are short enough and narrow enough to all but drop right in. 
You'll need to fabricate engine mounts, but that's easier than cutting a 
car up to put in a late model AMC six. At least with the Ford engine you 
can go back original later if desired. This is one non-AMC swap that 
most would accept. The 195.6 was a great engine for its day, but it's to 
hard to find parts for and expensive to rebuild for a driver. If you 
really want to drive your early American a lot, this is about the only 
way to go without cutting under the hood. Even modern fours are too wide 
-- the intake sticks way out from the engine, requiring one of the 
"humps" to be cut out.

-- 
Frank Swygert
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