Re: [Amc-list] Thomas Garner, 64 Classic

[Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday 07 August 2007 22:36:53 Thomas Garner wrote:

> When I first got it, carb was adjusted 
> so hi, it gave me whiplash when I put it in gear. It seemed to shift hard
> but solid. Fixed that with the little cable from tranny to carb. Kind of
> like a kick down cable, but I don't think it's the same. If I start in 1st
> gear, it shifts hard to 2nd then it winds up higher than I expect it to and
> then shifts to 3rd, until it warms up, then it tends to shift ok from 2nd
> to 3rd. 1st to 2nd ALWAYS shifts hard. (I normally just start off in D2)

Hmm... better fix that. There's two parts to your problem there -- idle speed 
and shifting.

Idle speed is set at the carb, same way auto or manual trans. In neutral/park, 
you set the idle speed to 'what the book says' or what your butt says (I like 
my idle a bit low). There's hot idle, and cold idle. Cold involves the choke 
setting and all that. For now I'll assume your car is all warmed up and at 
hot idle speed.

THEN you adjust the transmission shift cable. If you drive for long with that 
cable adjusted wrong, you'll wear out that little transmission.

You MUST HAVE a technical service manual for that car! Buy one on eBay if you 
don't ahve one!!! It's mandatory, really. Even experienced pro mechanics 
won't know how to work on that thing.

The trans cable adjustment is fairly easy. With the idle speed set right at 
the carb, and the car warmed up, car off, in park. You take the pin out of 
the clevis (fork jobbie on the cable end), push the cable in til it stops 
(push the cable slack in) then rotate the clevis (adjusting its length) until 
the pin *just fits* loosely in the clevis and carb linkage. THEN rotate the 
clevis two turns "longer".

Don't do that, excessive transmission wear. $1200. Ka-ching!





> --- farna@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> To:  Tgarner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,  amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Thomas Garner, 64 Classic
> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:19:26 -0600
>
> If the car had the old 195.6 (often called a 196 for short, and I'll
> call it that from now on), I'd say he's close to right. The 232 would do
> a bit better -- that car should be able to top out closer to 90 mph.
> What transmission do you have? Is it an auto or a stick?  If it's a
> stick, does it have a handle under the dash on the right that has
> "OVERDRIVE" on it? My guess at this point is that it's either an auto
> with a slipping transmission or it's an overdrive that isn't working
> correctly.  I can help troubleshoot the OD, but the auto will have to be
> serviced, or maybe rebuilt. So let's hit this one thing at a time --
> first off is the transmission type and miles on the car (I don't recall
> seeing either, but...). A tired engine and transmission would be a
> killer combo as far as speed is concerned.
>
> In regards to your other message -- send to just me or the list:
> I sent this to the list also. If you think others can help with the
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