Now that I do not have any AMC cars I have not checked the forums lately. Did some catching up today, and found some things just are not going to change. Frank, why must you always respond to every post, and usually with misinformation? You did it again with the Donohue, something that has been discussed ad nauseam with corrections and documented proof, but you still want to put forth undocumented rumors and stories. You stated only two things verifying a Donohue is the build date on the door-which only verifies when it was built and can disqualify a car, but not authenticate it (and just when are these dates?) Or the build sheet-where on the build sheet? I spent years researching all the codes, and I came up with the POSSIBLE code, but it is not verified at all. But what about dealer documentation, or the sticker price, etc? (And not that it matters, but I have reproduced build sheets, door decals, sticker prices, dealer paperwork etc.) There are a number of ways one can look at the car and determine if it is a possible real one or not-this has been covered over and over. There are exactly ZERO documented Donohues that do not meet the correct criteria-just some people pushing things like 304 engines in a Donohue, or the rare four bolt main ONLY found in a Donohue. Geez, I thought the days of these stories were over. Have you SEEN these cars and documentation, or just heard about them from the same storytellers? Donohues are worth more than a regular Javelin, just like a T/A Javelin is worth more than a regular Javelin. The cars had 360 or 390 engines, not 401s. And, they made 2501 cars, not 1501. Yes, you can tell when a car is built by the VIN and by door tag info. Flame away-I can't believe the same handful of people continually put forth incorrect AMC info for years, and even when shown first hand documentation, continue to ignore the facts and repeat the stories. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John's 100% correct. The only two things verifying an original Donohue is the build date on the sticker in the door and the build sheet itself. Secondly are the options -- it must be an SST model with the duck-tail spoiler and must have either a 360 or 401 with a floor shift auto or four speed manual transmission. There are documented "Donohue" Javelins that don't meet the criteria above. They are just Javelins with the Donohue spoiler option. Some people consider them "Donohues" because they CAN provide prrof that they came that way form the factory. One such car has a 304 and column shift auto trans, and isn't an SST. The valuable Donohue model is one of the 1501 built specifically to homologate the spoiler for use in T/A racing. All others are Donohue optioned Javelins. If the seller has documentation proving that the car was ordered from the factory with the Donohue option it MIGHT be worth a bit more than a standard Javelin. I would value it a bit more (as an appraiser), especially if it was an SST with the correct engine for a Donohue. But it would NOT be worth anything near an authenticated Donohue. Unfortunately if there is no build sheet and the door sticker is unreadable or missing, there's no way to determine when the car was built and if it is one of the 1501 homologation cars or not. -- Thomas M. Benvie _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list