408rwhp in a '79 'mX ? Promise me you'll not be 'Huggin Trees ? Had one friend hug a '71 Camaro - long short story..... ask God about 'Mario'.....if you have a chance. The drummer for Ozzie Osborne, another Mario, in the video: 'CraZy Babies' does this one move that illustrates it best - can't miss it - VH-1 classics - Head bangers Ball. Straight Lines Only Baby! and you're OUT at 99! ".....99 and a half just won't do !.." Honestly, you're not far from the Finished Product - so here are some 'Talking Points' to tie up before you Fire the Rig: Use a 'Torque Strap' on the engine - keeps the motor from 'rocking'. You Want to Stick It to 'em or you want to Pull the Trigger and GO ? If you want a Stick Transmission - you want a Series III TOYOTA SUPRA TURBO R154 transmission. If you hurry - there was one on eBay just missed for $300.00. '86 - '92 use an AX15 '97 - '99 bell housing from a Cherokee XJ - get the arm / bearing - Reservoir and slave too - don't let them cut the hose between the two - @ $129.00 ! If you want a 6spd. automatic - use the FORD / gm unit - new in 2006 - find one on www.car-parts.com behind a LINCOLN Navigator 2wd 5.4 three valve engine - it is * a Honey*.......... This is a ZF 6hp26 transmission - check it on Wikipedia - great write up - Maserati owners like 'em too. Nice choice 'Juicy' - upgrade for TorqueFlite users ~..~ The Turbo Supra trans has been used behind 600HP engines without problems - much better than Muncie's and lighter than T-56 6spd transmissions - only other choice is a Getrag 'n they are pricey and heavy - like the T-56. You'll want an ORGANIC clutch with a Spring Loaded disc ! Advanced Adapters can make one up from a Toyota Disc for you. Use a 'Lite Flywheel' - so you can 'blip' up or down to gears. I remember that clutch pressure plates have come a long way - get one for a 'Daily Driver' - not a 'moosey' leg twitcher - and 'baby the clutch'. Clutch / PP / Flywheel > to the Balance Shop. Rear end is a FORD 9" - or - a Dana 60 out of a Roadrunner? or 'other' MoPar. Other rear would be a early Jag XKE with the inboard disc brakes & 4 coil over shocks - very nice - but squats when drag racing from a dead stop...... so what. This would be the way to go for a handling car - ask Frank. The rear would be slightly heavier than a solid rear axle - which would need to be set up with a road race 4 link system. I have wondered about using a TOYOTA Turbo LSD rear center & shafts in a JAG XKE carrier - need to read up more on that. If you're crafty - maybe a 'Vette rear end.....could be a pita tho. BIG NOTICE! BEFORE you put this 'Take No Prisoner' Engine in the casket - set up the front end with BAER 4 piston caliper brakes - 44mm / 40mm pucks - and fancy Rotors ! check the FORD Cobra guys @ www.coral.org for what they are using - get 'em Used off the internet - ask on the Forums. Use Braided Steel Lines - FIRST CLASS ONLY - . This is NO JOKE . You're a '150 Shot' of NOS away from 600rwHP on the Street and 'Speed Junkies' were all Conservative Republicans at one time. Set the car up for the Task - first time you pull yourself out of a squirrlie DOA - you'll remember our little talk. I would also get upper and lower front control arms made up from something other than pressed Tin . Check like the PONTIAC GTO magazines for who makes their after market control arms - call them / send in a set of '79 Spirit up/lo arms for them to measure up. Check around - there are alot of Fabbers for these so don't pay thru the nose. Dirt Track Racers are a source too - we have alot of those around here - and alot of Fabbers too - and they like Fabbing. Poly bushing lower / Rubber Bushing Upper - won't shock the car this way & will improve handling. A set of front variable rate front springs - would make the car .feel and handle better than stockers . Just holding the nose off the ground is good for K-Mart parking lots - Eaton is one name - there is another. Not too stiff - tell them you want the front end to 'Track' not 'skip'. Give the engine weight - like 650lbs. Keep the stock steering box - not a 'Quick Ratio' unit - you don't want 'Quick' anything at speed - one sneeze and you're in another lane ? nuhh - uhh. With the 343 weight - make a removable Brace that runs from shock tower to shock tower and from tower to firewall 'plate' - both sides. Measure the distance - check what the Rice Rockets are using in their HONDAs in a magazine - copy. Does this car have a 'SUNROOF' ? Might consider 'bracing' the Firewall from behind - tie that in to the floor / rocker panel / torque boxes area...... box channel would work - or tube steel. Talk with some Dirt Track racer guys - they Fab alot. If you cut the front radiator brace on your Spirit - and let it sit for a week - the fender wells would begin to fold into each other.....just a side note..... Tie in the sub frames with weld in connectors - some people 'notch' the floor pans to get a straight shot - don't forget to use www.corroless.com rust killing paint under / over / inside channels 'n rocker panels. Make up a plastic 'wand' with a spray nozzle in the end to pump it into places. The car is going to flex and open up old painted seams - which if not coated will start to rust - eventually - . I would consider a 'Roll Bar' - something to keep the roof off your eyebrows should you blow a Tyree at Speed. Tying the car together will keep the windshield in one piece too. I'd install some type of Fire Suppression under the hood - just in case - easier to trigger this from inside the car than to watch it burn down..... cheap. My guesstimate is 10.5" rims for the rear - will save you buying Tyres every other month. that's my 'Short' form..... ;) Garry Nordstrom wrote: > your thoughts: would like to put my 343. dynoed @ 408 HP in my 79 AMX, > but drive tran will not take the power, am I dreaming. your thoughts > appreciated > Garry in Minnesota > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:02 AM > Subject: [Amc-list] xj: 2wd AX15 tranny > > >> >> R154 >> >> This is a robust 5-speed transmission found in the MKIII Supra Turbo >> <http://www.answers.com/topic/toyota-supra> and Toyota Soarer >> <http://www.answers.com/topic/toyota-soarer> (turbo) up to 2001. >> >> Ratios: >> >> * First Gear: 3.250:1 >> * Second Gear: 1.955:1 >> * Third Gear: 1.310:1 >> * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1 >> * Fifth Gear: 0.753:1 >> >> >> Transmission 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev >> AX-15 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79 4.22 >> >> >> >> >> >> The AX-15 is a medium duty five speed transmission with an aluminum >> case. It is manufactured by Aisin in Japan and, although they are not >> compatible, the same model transmission is used in some Toyota trucks. >> In 1994 the clutch slave cylinder was moved to the outside of the bell >> housing, so these AX-15s have a different input bearing retainer to >> accommodate the different throwout bearing. The input shaft is also >> slightly different, so a different pilot bushing is used. All AX-15s >> have a 1 1/8" 10 spline input shaft and a 23 spine output shaft. >> >> >> Usage >> >> The AX-15 was first used in Cherokees (XJ) and Comanches (MJ) with the >> 4.0L engine. In mid 1989, the AX-15 was used in Wranglers (YJ) with the >> 4.2L engine and it continued to be used with the 4.0L engine. The first >> year of the Grand Cherokee (ZJ), the AX-15 was rare option only with the >> 4.0L engine. The AX-15 is still used in TJs and XJs with the 4.0L >> engine. >> >> Transmission >> >> 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev >> AX-15 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79 4.22 >> >> >> >> >> >> AX First to second = 1.50 >> R First to second = 1.295 >> >> AX Second to third = 0.89 >> R Second to third = 0.645 >> >> AX Third to fourth = 0.44 >> R Third to fourth = 0.44 >> >> AX Fourth to fifth = 0.79 >> R Fourth to fifth = 0.79 >> >> >> >> >> Wouldn't the car be more 'manageable' in parking >> & such with the AX15 ? >> >> 'Launches' would push the RPMs up - >> >> >> >> The R154 boxes I've been finding on the .net all need >> a rebuild - minimum of $220.00 in parts w/o labor. >> >> Prices start $350.00 for a core. >> >> >> Found a '97 AX15 with 27K miles complete for $397.00 >> in a local yard - $235.00 two states away. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =Bt= >> milnersXcoupe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sandwich Maker wrote: >>> " From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> " >>> " > From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> " > >>> " > >>> " >>> " The '97 - '99 2wd AX15 is the one to look for - High Output version - >>> " larger input shaft with other improvements. >>> " >>> " This would be *sweet* behind a 360 set up for crusin' in a light car! >>> >>> except for the gearing. much better would be a turbo supra r154 [same >>> box, car gears] but i don't know if it ever got the same strength >>> improvements. >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Andrew Hay the genius nature >>> internet rambler is to see what all have >>> seen >>> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> > > > -- ___ =Bt= /~ ~\ milnersXcoupe |_ | "The Heretic" |/ __-__ \ /~ ~~-_ ~~ -~~\ ~\ / | \ , / / \ // _ _---~~~ //-_ \ / (/~~ ) _____/-__ ~-_ _-\ _________ / _-~\\0) ~~~~ ~~-_ \__--~~ `\ ___---~~~ /' /_-~ _-/' )~/ /' (___________/ _-~/' _-~~/ _-~ _ ----- _~-_\\\\ _-~ /' __--~ (_ ______---~~~--_ _-~ ~-_~\\\\ ( ( -_~ ~-_ | ~-_ /~~~~\ \ \~~ ~-_ ~-_ ~\ ~~--__-----_ \ ; / \ ______-----\ ~-__~-~~~~~~--_ ~~--_ \ . | | \((*)~~~~~~~~~~| __--~~ ~-_ ) | | | \ |~|~---------)__--~~ \_____________/ / , \ ~-----~ / /~ ) \ ~-----~ / ~-_ _-~ /_______________________________/ `-_ _-~ ~ ----- ~ ~ ----- ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070516/00fa87fa/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list