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- From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:14:12 -0400
408rwhp in a '79 'mX ?
Promise me you'll not be 'Huggin Trees ?
Had one friend hug a '71 Camaro - long short story.....
ask God about 'Mario'.....if you have a chance.
The drummer for Ozzie Osborne, another Mario, in the video:
'CraZy Babies' does this one move that illustrates it
best - can't miss it - VH-1 classics - Head bangers Ball.
Straight Lines Only Baby! and you're OUT at 99!
".....99 and a half just won't do !.."
Honestly, you're not far from the Finished Product -
so here are some 'Talking Points' to tie up before
you Fire the Rig:
Use a 'Torque Strap' on the engine - keeps the
motor from 'rocking'.
You Want to Stick It to 'em or you want to Pull the Trigger
and GO ?
If you want a Stick Transmission - you want a
Series III TOYOTA SUPRA TURBO R154 transmission.
If you hurry - there was one on eBay just missed
for $300.00. '86 - '92
use an AX15 '97 - '99 bell housing from a Cherokee XJ -
get the arm / bearing - Reservoir and slave too - don't let them
cut the hose between the two - @ $129.00 !
If you want a 6spd. automatic - use the FORD / gm
unit - new in 2006 - find one on www.car-parts.com
behind a LINCOLN Navigator 2wd 5.4 three valve engine -
it is * a Honey*..........
This is a ZF 6hp26 transmission - check it on Wikipedia -
great write up - Maserati owners like 'em too.
Nice choice 'Juicy' - upgrade for TorqueFlite users ~..~
The Turbo Supra trans has been used behind 600HP engines
without problems - much better than Muncie's and lighter
than T-56 6spd transmissions - only other choice is a
Getrag 'n they are pricey and heavy - like the T-56.
You'll want an ORGANIC clutch with a Spring Loaded disc !
Advanced Adapters can make one up from a Toyota Disc for you.
Use a 'Lite Flywheel' - so you can 'blip' up or down to gears.
I remember that clutch pressure plates have come a long way -
get one for a 'Daily Driver' - not a 'moosey' leg twitcher -
and 'baby the clutch'.
Clutch / PP / Flywheel > to the Balance Shop.
Rear end is a FORD 9" - or - a Dana 60 out of a Roadrunner?
or 'other' MoPar.
Other rear would be a early Jag XKE with the inboard disc
brakes & 4 coil over shocks - very nice - but squats when
drag racing from a dead stop...... so what.
This would be the way to go for a handling car - ask Frank.
The rear would be slightly heavier than a solid rear axle -
which would need to be set up with a road race 4 link system.
I have wondered about using a TOYOTA Turbo LSD rear center & shafts
in a JAG XKE carrier - need to read up more on that.
If you're crafty - maybe a 'Vette rear end.....could be a pita tho.
BIG NOTICE!
BEFORE you put this 'Take No Prisoner' Engine in the casket -
set up the front end with BAER 4 piston caliper brakes -
44mm / 40mm pucks - and fancy Rotors !
check the FORD Cobra guys @ www.coral.org for what they are
using - get 'em Used off the internet - ask on the Forums.
Use Braided Steel Lines - FIRST CLASS ONLY - .
This is NO JOKE .
You're a '150 Shot' of NOS away from 600rwHP on the Street
and 'Speed Junkies' were all Conservative Republicans at one time.
Set the car up for the Task - first time you pull yourself out
of a squirrlie DOA - you'll remember our little talk.
I would also get upper and lower front control arms made up
from something other than pressed Tin .
Check like the PONTIAC GTO magazines for who makes their after market
control arms - call them / send in a set of '79 Spirit
up/lo arms for them to measure up.
Check around - there are alot of Fabbers for these so don't
pay thru the nose.
Dirt Track Racers are a source too -
we have alot of those around here - and alot of Fabbers too -
and they like Fabbing.
Poly bushing lower / Rubber Bushing Upper - won't shock
the car this way & will improve handling.
A set of front variable rate front springs -
would make the car .feel and handle better than stockers .
Just holding the nose off the ground is good for K-Mart
parking lots - Eaton is one name - there is another.
Not too stiff - tell them you want the front end to 'Track'
not 'skip'. Give the engine weight - like 650lbs.
Keep the stock steering box - not a 'Quick Ratio' unit -
you don't want 'Quick' anything at speed - one sneeze and
you're in another lane ? nuhh - uhh.
With the 343 weight - make a removable Brace that runs
from shock tower to shock tower and from tower to firewall
'plate' - both sides.
Measure the distance - check what the Rice Rockets are using
in their HONDAs in a magazine - copy.
Does this car have a 'SUNROOF' ?
Might consider 'bracing' the Firewall from behind -
tie that in to the floor / rocker panel / torque boxes
area...... box channel would work - or tube steel.
Talk with some Dirt Track racer guys - they Fab alot.
If you cut the front radiator brace on your Spirit - and
let it sit for a week - the fender wells would begin to
fold into each other.....just a side note.....
Tie in the sub frames with weld in connectors - some people
'notch' the floor pans to get a straight shot - don't forget
to use www.corroless.com rust killing paint under / over /
inside channels 'n rocker panels. Make up a plastic 'wand'
with a spray nozzle in the end to pump it into places.
The car is going to flex and open up old painted seams -
which if not coated will start to rust - eventually - .
I would consider a 'Roll Bar' - something to keep the
roof off your eyebrows should you blow a Tyree at Speed.
Tying the car together will keep the windshield in one piece too.
I'd install some type of Fire Suppression under the hood -
just in case - easier to trigger this from inside the car
than to watch it burn down..... cheap.
My guesstimate is 10.5" rims for the rear - will save
you buying Tyres every other month.
that's my 'Short' form..... ;)
Garry Nordstrom wrote:
> your thoughts: would like to put my 343. dynoed @ 408 HP in my 79 AMX,
> but drive tran will not take the power, am I dreaming. your thoughts
> appreciated
> Garry in Minnesota
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:02 AM
> Subject: [Amc-list] xj: 2wd AX15 tranny
>
>
>>
>> R154
>>
>> This is a robust 5-speed transmission found in the MKIII Supra Turbo
>> <http://www.answers.com/topic/toyota-supra> and Toyota Soarer
>> <http://www.answers.com/topic/toyota-soarer> (turbo) up to 2001.
>>
>> Ratios:
>>
>> * First Gear: 3.250:1
>> * Second Gear: 1.955:1
>> * Third Gear: 1.310:1
>> * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
>> * Fifth Gear: 0.753:1
>>
>>
>> Transmission 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
>> AX-15 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79 4.22
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The AX-15 is a medium duty five speed transmission with an aluminum
>> case. It is manufactured by Aisin in Japan and, although they are not
>> compatible, the same model transmission is used in some Toyota trucks.
>> In 1994 the clutch slave cylinder was moved to the outside of the bell
>> housing, so these AX-15s have a different input bearing retainer to
>> accommodate the different throwout bearing. The input shaft is also
>> slightly different, so a different pilot bushing is used. All AX-15s
>> have a 1 1/8" 10 spline input shaft and a 23 spine output shaft.
>>
>>
>> Usage
>>
>> The AX-15 was first used in Cherokees (XJ) and Comanches (MJ) with the
>> 4.0L engine. In mid 1989, the AX-15 was used in Wranglers (YJ) with the
>> 4.2L engine and it continued to be used with the 4.0L engine. The first
>> year of the Grand Cherokee (ZJ), the AX-15 was rare option only with the
>> 4.0L engine. The AX-15 is still used in TJs and XJs with the 4.0L
>> engine.
>>
>> Transmission
>>
>> 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Rev
>> AX-15 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79 4.22
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> AX First to second = 1.50
>> R First to second = 1.295
>>
>> AX Second to third = 0.89
>> R Second to third = 0.645
>>
>> AX Third to fourth = 0.44
>> R Third to fourth = 0.44
>>
>> AX Fourth to fifth = 0.79
>> R Fourth to fifth = 0.79
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't the car be more 'manageable' in parking
>> & such with the AX15 ?
>>
>> 'Launches' would push the RPMs up -
>>
>>
>>
>> The R154 boxes I've been finding on the .net all need
>> a rebuild - minimum of $220.00 in parts w/o labor.
>>
>> Prices start $350.00 for a core.
>>
>>
>> Found a '97 AX15 with 27K miles complete for $397.00
>> in a local yard - $235.00 two states away.
>>
>>
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>>
>> =Bt=
>> milnersXcoupe
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>>
>> Sandwich Maker wrote:
>>> " From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> "
>>> " > From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> " >
>>> " >
>>> "
>>> " The '97 - '99 2wd AX15 is the one to look for - High Output version -
>>> " larger input shaft with other improvements.
>>> "
>>> " This would be *sweet* behind a 360 set up for crusin' in a light car!
>>>
>>> except for the gearing. much better would be a turbo supra r154 [same
>>> box, car gears] but i don't know if it ever got the same strength
>>> improvements.
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Andrew Hay the genius nature
>>> internet rambler is to see what all have
>>> seen
>>> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
>>>
>>>
>>>
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