Snip Yeah, and to top it off IIRC the bolt pattern is 5X4.5" on the Crown Vics. 8.8" housing too. Plenty good as-is, lots of aftermarket parts if you do manage to break it. I wonder what the outside width measurement Snip Don't know, but the package makes it look like I should find out. Snip of the lower control arms is? Would they be close enough to allow them to be installed without a full crossmember, as in would they fit snugly or cloes to the inside subframes of the Ambassador and allow the installation of pockets to mount the lower control arms to. Where to the upper control arms mount? Will they clear "things" with out intruding on rear seat space? The uppers should due to the fact the Crown Vic probably has less space then the Ambassadors and Classics. Mark Price Snip This is where it gets interesting. both the upper and lower control arms are attached to the OUTSIDE of the sub frame. Going straight back to the axle. Now it looked like the Crown Vic is a uni-body car so this is what I envision looking at the parts. You should be able to mount these parts using a long shoulder bolt run through the frame from the inside portion of the box member. You get a shoulder bolt by obtaining a standard bolt and a piece of tubing that is the clearance diameter of the bolt. Drill a hole on the inside frame large enough to fit the tubing through with the bolt inside it. The length of the tube would be just long enough to butt up against the inside of the outside frame and be flush against the outside of the inside frame. Using a washer large to take in the surface area of the unibody sheet metal the hole on the outside of the outside frame would be just large enough to clear the bolt, butting the tubing or pipe between the inside of the outside frame and the washer on the head of the long bolt through the frame. The piece of tubing would then act as a spacer to hold the dimension of the square sub frame formed by spot welding sheet metal together. Outboard from that a U shaped mounting bracket is built to hold the RUBBER bushed ends of the Ford axle links and the open end of the U welded to the outside sheet metal of the subframe. Thus when the nut is placed the axle link is captured at the sub frame and load distributions are spread through a larger surface area on the sub- frame. As all mounting is done to the outsides of the sub frame for the axle links, the spring pad is further in on the axle and the coil mounting looks as if it would work if the dimensions are correct. Don't know where the Watkins linkage would fit but I am sure it is not all that difficult to noodle it out either. No back seat or interior interference exists on the Ford and it looks as if the same thing could be true on coil sprung AMC car. Food for thought. Now I gotta go install a power window regulator in the door of my Town and Country. And speaking of electric Saturn's, I have to figure out why the drivers electric window does not go up and down on that either. John. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070501/47931f94/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list