Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:48 AM From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> Mark, one thing I don't see in a lot of these truck-arm schemes is explicitly allowing for roll. They all go up and down fine. I realize also that the angled arms helps, but a flat pivot that flexes in only one plane simply can't work. ------------------------------ "Truck Arms" do allow for roll, but as you noted roll is limited. The angle of the arms and pivots allow for some roll motion, and the length of the arms. The original Chevy truck arms are I beams, not boxed. The beam itself twists as the vehicle rolls. It's designed specifically to twist. The beams are relatively heavy in cross section, but are made from 10-11 gauge material. They have a high resistance to bending in the vertical plane due to depth, but a low resistance to twisting in the horizontal plane. There is at least 6" of flex from one wheel to the other, though I believe it is more like 8" IIRC. One wheel can be jacked up for changing easily without affecting the other, or rather affecting it no more than it would a leaf spring or torque tube suspension. Boxed beams are used on NASCAR chassis. Those are much stiffer than the I beams used by Chevy and Hot Rods to Hell. HRTH sells the arms and other components for custom installations (http://www.hotrodstohell.net/catalog/catalog.htm). Stock Car Products (http://www.stockcarproducts.com/trkarm.htm) also sells them for about the same price (SCP $225 each, HRTH $220 each). SCP has a universal crossmember for $96, so it would be about $550 for the parts to put one in a 63-66 Classic (the most likely recipient) with a little welding. I'd cut the crossmember to the correct width and weld on end plates that would bolt under the car. I've though to build a set using 1"x3" 16 gauge rectangular tubing. That should handle moderate power (300-400 hp) and be thin enough to flex some. Not as much flex as an I beam, but should be enough to mimic a car with a rear roll bar. I just wonder if a length of tubing could be placed diagonally from one bar to the other to eliminate the need for a panhard rod. There would have to be rubber bushings or spherical rod ends to allow the arms to twist, but there's little enough movement and pressure on rod ends in that application that they should last. They won't last on the street when used to replace main suspension bushings, such as on strut rods and A-arms. _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list