Well, goes to show you I don't know my Fords! ;> Ken and Andrew both came to the rescue with great answers! I forgot those things were used earlier as straight four speeds!! The later one that I have a little experience with just had some gears shuffled to allow an OD. Now to just remember... _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list