[Amc-list] PSSt: AMC history

["Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What's the value of a 1960s AMC stock certificate now?  It might be more than a Chrysler share tomorrow.  Daimler paid $36 billion for Mopar-Jeep in 1998; the Chrysler Group is only worth $14 billion today.  Investing?

Better go buy an old AMC.  Or buy two for $900 and give Brien a 10% fee.     

But better not go looking for more AMC info:

>>the other one....this one is invite only...

Well, gol-eee: no one's ever gonna 'vite me!  

>>
OK, even though it's Brand C, I admit that this is likely the
case :-) It is pretty silly what "SS" has gone onto.
<<

Beyond deSSicration by Chevrolet, and SSwallowing by Jaguar, another SS I was thinking of was German, but not geo-political: the M-B SS and SSK.

http://auta5p.car.cz/katalog/mercedes-benz/mercedes_ssk_01.jpg
    
Whatever anyone said --- or says --- about General Motors, there can be no denying that the historic "SS" connection (including Europeans other than Mercedes...) was a part of the genesis of that badge for Chevrolets.  The "SST" badge of American Motors, while very timely for its day, was, of course, yet another connection, albeit more removed, to European history, where, despite what we like to think in America, the auto really began.

Car buffs over there know much about our makes and models; we all need to learn much more about theirs.  Detroit was not always the center of the automotive universe and it probably won't be that again.  We may well talk about "the Shanghai show" tomorrow like we talk about NAIAS today.  AMC folks should know that better than the Big-Three fans do.  Chicago was AMC's Detroit show.  (Oh how timely is that thought!  More later?)    


I wouldn't expect anyone here (nor anywhere else!!) to "Count" another connection yesterday, but since the Big Dog's aero-racer (with SPAD Vee) was mentioned by you, I whall pursue it and take the discussion from SSs to BBs: Blitzen Benzs, Bang Bangs, and Big Bad American-motored cars.

http://www.brooklands.org.uk/news/News%20images/Macoco6.jpg

(proving car boys will be boys, whether of not they're Bentley Boys...)

http://www.brooklandstrack.co.uk/Drivrlist/zboro1.htm

http://www.brooklandstrack.co.uk/Drivrlist/zborowsk.htm

(...a cufflink in a Mercedes was deadly as was a scarf in a Bugatti...)

http://www.isadoraduncan.org/about_isadora.html

http://www.tomlaferriere.com/classics/video/ALF1.wmv

http://tinyurl.com/ywkqw9

http://www.tomlaferriere.com/classics/alf_tourer.htm

Fun, but back to discuss AMCs: BBs, SBs, MBs, DCs, and AMX road racing.

>>
AMC content: he said he never remembered AMXs being much of a factor in
American road racing at all...
<<
>>
Considering the numbers built I wouldn't be real surprised if he'd never
heard of a an AMX on a road course! The Ford/AC Cobra was a natural, the
only way to unbalance a Cobra was to stick a BB in it
<<

Keleigh and Frank hit home on both ups: even if AMC had money to compete with Cobra, AMX was more compromised than Corvette: front-heavy AND part of a Javelin --- that AMX and Jav were as race-worthy as they were, was, then and now, worth notice for the abilities of "struggling little" AMC.

No more time today, so I can't travel back to 1965 to see AMC in Chicago so I'll ask you to explain how a Hispano engine almost came to be on the AMC family tree.  You'll have to go back to the day of Big Six and Super to turn that ignition key.  A big Nash six was only 4.0L; a Super Hudson six was 4.5L, 4.7L, and then a 5.0L Hornet.  And a really big Nash eight was 5.3L grand.  If you want to go back farther, when the American Motor six came in 3.4L, 3.8L, 4.6L, and 8.0L sizes (talk about your big six!), be our guest.
  
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