Frank, No, I did not say he singled out the Spirit/AMX. I made it clear that he picked 5 cars and that included the Spirit/AMX. The reason I mentioned the Spirit/AMX is because this is an AMC list!!! And you said >True, but it was a vote -- meaning not only his opinion -- and it was ONE OF FIVE> Hey, there was no vote to pick the five cars to vote on, it was Statham who picked the five cars and had the mean things to say about the Spirit/AMX. On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:52:08 -0600 "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Yes you did -- sorry for shouting! ;> > I'm like you -- I'd call the AMX both a sports and muscle car. Back > then > the definition for a true sports car also had to be a convertible > or > roadster (the difference between those two -- a convertible has a > permanently attached folding top, a roadster has a removable > folding > and/or hard top). So maybe it was technically a sports coupe. Only > Americans would call a Camaro or Mustang a sports car -- the things > have > back seats!!! ;> Sporty cars, yes, and maybe a European would let > you > get by with calling one a sports coupe. Typically in Europe a > "sports > coupe" was called a 2+2 in the 60s -- like the Jag XKE with a back > seat > and even some of the big Jensens. > > Unlike the Ford/AC Cobra, the AMX would have handled about the same > no > matter the size of the engine. The Cobras handled much better with > the > SBF, the BBF cars were more of a dragster. I read a road course > test > between the two versions of Cobra and they ended up finishing about > the > same. The SB version took the curves faster, but the BB version won > out > on the straights and powered out of tight turns better (had to > brake > like he-- going into them though!). The testing team (Car and > Driver, or > Road and Track...) started one car in front of the other then > switched. > Neither could pass the other once started in that position! > > Most consider "mid size" and pony cars w/bb engines a muscle car, > or > engines in the 390+ range in cases where only one block serves all. > I > don't consider a 350 a muscle car, but then I remember the "real" > muscle > cars! For 1977 or so and later I suppose 350 can be considered > muscle... > > ------------- > Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:54 AM > From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx> > > Frank, > I never said Statham singled out the AMX. I did say it was one of > the > five cars to be voted on. And as far as the original AMX, wasn't it > a > sports car, not a muscle car? Or was it both? An AMX with the 290 > surely > couldn't be called a muscle car! > > > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!! '07 AMC NATIONALS - Sep. 6-8, 2007 - Cordova Dragway Park, Cordova, IL AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list