Also, LEDs are highly directional. Most of them have 15 - 30 degree wide beams! That *is* flashlight territory. That's also how they get the claimed high brightnesses, but concentrating into a spot (marketing is marketing). If you get a 'water clear' LED you can see the LED device inside it, way at the bottom. The rest is lens! Be careful, about 0.5mm above the tiny die containing the LED is a wire a few microns in diameter. Break that, it becomes a DED (Dark Emitting Diode). You can grind all that lens down and radically change the beam pattern; just a rough file and flatten the end will really diffuse the beam, and is what I do for lighting panels and gauges. Or rub it with sandpaper. You won't lose or block light just spread it. More than you ever wanted to know about LEDs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list