Dodges of the 1940's had what they called "Fluid Drive" that was a torque converter with a regular clutch assembly on it with a regular 3-speed transmission. You couldn't wear out a clutch with those things. And could take off in 3rd gear although was pretty slow start... It was handy though for icy hilly roads we had. This was behind their flathead 6 engine. It was in my first car (1942 Dodge Business coupe, cost $15) I think they had this in Chryslers and DeSoto's at the time, also. And in 49->50 model 1/2 tom pickups. I think it was a bust, though, as they were not very good for response performance. Plymouth performed better and drove smooth enough without that. More economical, too, without all that driveline slippage. They were almost as bad as the Powerglide Chevy or a Buick Dynaflow. I never drove or had even seen a twinstick anything but kind of sounds like they were similar driving as the old Fluid Drive Dodge and De Soto of 1940's and early 1950's (before their V8 models). That was before AMC (1954). Didn't see much of anything that said "Rambler" on it. Not until 1955-57 when they became more popular. ______________________________________________________________ Ralph Ausmann - Hillsboro, OR - > <ralph.ausmann@xxxxxxxxx> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOE FULTON" <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Was E-Stick, Now Drivers > Mark said: > > I drove one in perfect working order as late as > 1985-6! > It was creepy! To shift with no clutch! Everyone > should get to drive one once! > what blast! Just hit the gas and go, let off the gas, > shift and nail it > again! > > ------------------------------ > Would it not be neat to have an AMC meet in a large > park with plenty of room and low-traffic streets, > where owners could let others borrow their cars to see > how they drive? > > The latest issue of Hemmings Classic Car comes to > mind, which features Cadillac Eldorados of different > vintage. How neat to get behind the wheel of > something unique (and most AMCs are unique now) and do > your own drive report. I'm not talking about > burnouts, just safe and sane driving to let another > hobbyist experience the car. I would loan my Javelin > in a heartbeat if I could get the chance to drive a > bathtub Nash, stepdown Hudson, etc. > > Joe Fulton > Salinas, CA > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com > _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com