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Today's Topics:

   1. WTB: 4cyl, 4spd, SPIRIT w/ A/C (Kelly Tipton)
   2. Pulley Spacing (Todd Tomason)
   3. Eddie's Rebel gas woes (Jeff Reeves)
   4. Re: Gremlin Sundowner Again (Keleigh Hardie)
   5. Re: Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix (Mark Price)
   6. What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! (Mark Price)
   7. 1975 -6 Hornet/Gremlin MC Specs (johnny kazek)
   8. Re: What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! (Sandwich Maker)
   9. Re: quick ratio steering question (Sandwich Maker)
  10. Re: Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix (Tom Jennings)
  11. Re: Pulley Spacing (Tom Jennings)
  12. Re: Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix (Tom Jennings)
  13. Re: What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! (Tom Jennings)
  14. Re: Pulley Spacing (jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
  15. Re: What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! (Sandwich Maker)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:20:42 -0500
From: Kelly Tipton <jktipton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] WTB: 4cyl, 4spd, SPIRIT w/ A/C
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62dEWp7XWU8000002e8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

 Looking for a NICE 4cyl, 4spd Spirit w/ A/C.

 Please e-mail me off list. NO JUNKERS, I do not have time for rust
buckets.

=============================================================
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:55:10 -0600
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Pulley Spacing
To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <200612180655.10912.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

My son and I are swapping all the pulleys and accessories from a 360 to a 304.  
The water pump and crank pulleys seem closer together on the 304 than they 
were on the 360.  Does anyone know if this is actually the case?  Maybe it's 
just an optical illusion of some sort.

Todd


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:19:48 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Eddie's Rebel gas woes
To: "amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<9606857.1166447988447.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
	
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Sounds like a terrific reason to fix the fuel gauge so that it is ACCURATE!

:-)

Jeff Reeves
Auburn GA
94 Cherokee
84 Eagle wagon
79 Spirit GT
72 Javelin SST
69 Ambassador DPL




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:57:52 -0700
From: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gremlin Sundowner Again
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <45869E60.6020909@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Whilst cleaning out some old folders, I found a couple of pics of that 
Sundowner on Catalina. If anyone wants to see them, e-mail me off line 
and I'll send them to you (warning, they're kinda big, 600k, each, let 
me know if you want me to send a smaller, lower res version and I'll do 
that instead)...

Keleigh

amc-list-request@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:15:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] 
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <20061217221522.18137.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I was reviewing an older issue of Hemmings Classic Car
> (Aug 2005, page 67) today and in the article entitled:
>  Gremlins You Never Saw was included a paragraph and
> two pictures of the Gremlin Sundowner CE (California
> Edition).   As stated before it was a dress-up package
> for the 77 Gremlin to enhance showroom traffic in
> California:  two-tone tan/gold paint, painted full
> wheel covers (from the Concord and Pacer), special tan
> vinyl interior appointments.
>
> Nice accessory shown in one photo holding a surfboard.
>  
>
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
>   


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 6:30:29 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix
To: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
	amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <31821051.1166452229112.JavaMail.root@web25>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Now, why do you suppose VAM could come up with such a nice looking seat and we got stuck with almost flat buckets???!!!!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Mauriecio sent me these from Guadajara Mexico of his new 1981 Rally GT. 
> Someone save these photos for furute reference as the host, photobucket, 
> usually dumps them after only a certain amount of time! So if someone wants 
> to save these for future reference, please do before they are gone. I have 
> not heard from Mauricio for awhile. This is a VAM 1981 Spirit Rally GT, 
> rather rare little car and you will notice a number of things on it that 
> didn't appear in the US Spirits (at least that I know of).
> Have fun,
> Eddie Stakes
> 
> EXTERIOR
> 
> Rear:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_01.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_02.jpg
> 
> Rear Passenger Side:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_03.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_04.jpg
> 
> Passenger Side:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_05.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_06.jpg
> 
> Front Passenger Side:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_07.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_08.jpg
> 
> Front:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_09.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_10.jpg
> 
> Driver Side Front:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_11.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_12.jpg
> 
> Driver Side:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_13.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_14.jpg
> 
> Driver Side Rear:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_15.jpg
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_16.jpg
> 
> Passenger Side Front Wheel:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_17.jpg
> 
> Driver Side Front Wheel:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_18.jpg
> 
> Passenger Side Rear Wheel:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_19.jpg
> 
> Driver Side Rear Wheel:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_20.jpg
> 
> 
> INTERIOR
> 
> Passenger Door:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_21.jpg
> 
> Driver Door:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_22.jpg
> 
> Passenger Interior View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_23.jpg
> 
> Driver Interior View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_24.jpg
> 
> Passenger Full Dashboard View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_25.jpg
> 
> Driver Full Dashboard View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_26.jpg
> 
> Driver Portion Dashboard View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_27.jpg
> 
> Center Portion Dashboard View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_28.jpg
> 
> Passenger Portion Dashboard View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_29.jpg
> 
> Rear Seat Passenger View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_30.jpg
> 
> Rear Seat Driver View:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_31.jpg
> 
> Passenger Seat:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_32.jpg
> 
> Driver Seat:
> 
> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_33.jpg
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> Email is currently HEAVY
> 5-12 day reply times, call if important 
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 7:39:19 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!!
To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <14122365.1166456359346.JavaMail.root@web25>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Anyone know what this little bugger was originally built for?
I wonder what it would take to convert it to run on alcohol? It would make a nifty little Genset or???  powerplant!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220061076066


Ebay Item number: 220061076066  

To keep it somewhat on topic, would this swap into a Metropolitan???!!!!
 

Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:18:17 +0000
From: "johnny kazek" <johnnykazek@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1975 -6 Hornet/Gremlin MC Specs
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY134-F201AA4076E709B17E7F372A5C90@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"


   Wondering if anyone who has this type of Master Cylinder might be able
   to tell me the size tubing out of the reservoirs.   I'm converting to
   this MC on my 60 Rambler Wagon (from single reservoir), part won't be
   here for a week, so I'm trying to get the lines run and in place so I
   can drop it in.

   Thanks for your help-   Johnny
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   1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2746??PS=47575


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:20:50 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!!
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200612181620.kBIGKoG18487@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Anyone know what this little bugger was originally built for?

the jpegs came up looking like %^&* on my notebook but i'd guess
they're european; lotsa cars there in the 1.0L range.

" I wonder what it would take to convert it to run on alcohol? It would make a nifty little Genset or???  powerplant!
" 
" http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220061076066
" 
" To keep it somewhat on topic, would this swap into a Metropolitan???!!!!

with enough money anything's possible...  i'd sooner go for a mgb 1.8
swap myself.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:22:24 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] quick ratio steering question
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: zebratow@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200612181622.kBIGMOA18533@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Hi Eddie, I think I have an AMX with the quick ratio manual steering.  Is 
" there a way you can tell me how to figure out if I do?  Like turns 
" lock-to-lock?
" 
" Thanks,
" Paul (zebratow)
" zebratow@xxxxxxx
" ==========================

iirc the fast 16:1 manual box is about 3 turns lock-to-lock.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:05:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Eddie Stakes
	<eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612180950500.5195@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Eddie Stakes wrote:

> Subject: [AMC-List] Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix


Saved. http://wps.com/AMC/VAM-1981-Rally-GT 

Linked to on my AMC page, http://wps.com/AMC. Feel free to wget
the whole thing.


Pictures are still uploading and my home link is not fast.



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:06:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Pulley Spacing
To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612181006030.5195@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Todd Tomason wrote:

> The water pump and crank pulleys seem closer together on the 304 than they 
> were on the 360.  Does anyone know if this is actually the case?  Maybe it's 
> just an optical illusion of some sort.

I bet it's just pulley diameter difference.


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:08:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612181007540.5195@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Mark Price wrote:

> Now, why do you suppose VAM could come up with such a nice looking seat and we got stuck with almost flat buckets???!!!!

Yeah, let's all stop living in denial -- AMC seats after the
removable-cushion era are crap! Or is it just that I always
drive AMCs low-end products, and not Ambassadors etc?



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:12:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612181009320.5195@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Mark Price wrote:

> Anyone know what this little bugger was originally built for?
> I wonder what it would take to convert it to run on alcohol? It would make a nifty little Genset or???  powerplant!
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220061076066


I just (weeks ago) looked at, and drooled on, a military surplus
power unit (GPU?) that's a multi-10KW electrical generator
driven by a very small jet engine. The WHOLE THING is a fat
suitcase, sat 32" x 32" x 24". Including the jet engine,
gearbox, generator!

Apparently they're around 100hp. Someone I was with stuffed
the motor from one into a motorcycle.

Suuure would be a nice fit in a bathtub rambler! 100hp ain't
much, but it's 15% more than stock, and the damn thing would
run on kerosene.


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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:15:31 -0600
From: jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Pulley Spacing
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <f581c319453e.45869473@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Nope.  Same Pulleys.  We moved the pulleys from the 360 to the 304.  The 304 was missing the pulleys when we bought it.

Tom Jennings wrote:

> 
> I bet it's just pulley diameter difference.
>


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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:23:33 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!!
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200612181923.kBIJNXq22639@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Mark Price wrote:
" 
" 
" 
" I just (weeks ago) looked at, and drooled on, a military surplus
" power unit (GPU?) that's a multi-10KW electrical generator
" driven by a very small jet engine. The WHOLE THING is a fat
" suitcase, sat 32" x 32" x 24". Including the jet engine,
" gearbox, generator!
" 
" Apparently they're around 100hp. Someone I was with stuffed
" the motor from one into a motorcycle.

i always wanted to make a turbine bike, ever since i learned of these
little engines...

" Suuure would be a nice fit in a bathtub rambler! 100hp ain't
" much, but it's 15% more than stock, and the damn thing would
" run on kerosene.

transmission would be the problem.  turbines have a very flat
speed/power curve.  my solutions would be either electric or
hydrostatic.

no difficulty making a small pm field 100hp alt that could run at
turbo speed, though the 100hp motor [or 2 50s or 4 25s] would be
rather bulky, especially on a bike...  power efficiency is very good
though.

a variable displacement axial piston swashplate type of hydrostatic
pump/motor setup is also very flexible though not as efficient as
electric drive.  the pump could be smaller to minimize the amount of
gear reduction needed from the turbo and the motor could be larger to
minimize gear reduction needed to the wheels.  control system needed
to make it fully automatic doesn't sound very difficult, even
hydromechanically done.  this might be compact enough to work in a
bike...
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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