Everything for EFi or TBI is available in junkyards - cheap. For my Turbo App. the 1227749 ECM is between $15.00 - $50.00 from www.car-parts.com. The rest - harness / injectors / Throttle Body / sensors can be had at Pick-'n-Pull or a donor heap for under $250.00 . The GM boys have .net sites that cover everything from which harness to locate to pinning an ECM for 8cyl. applications. Learning curve finding sites & reading up is about a month to know what does what and what to look for. Biggest pita is getting the Intake Manifold modded for Injectors. VW has screw in Injector 'bungs' - holders where the Injector body fits into on the manifold. Welding a thick alum. rod to the manifold - cut it off - drill it out. Aim the injector nozzle - the spray - at a 43 degree angle to the intake valve head. So, you're out around $500.00 in parts if you shop a used manifold. The Offenhauser single plane looks better than the Torker for this - just whack out the seperator in the plenum - more area to mount the Injectors on the mated runners and the runners are shorter than the Torker - give you better low - mid throttle response. =Bt= milnersXcoupe "The Heretic" PRICING To answer some basic questions, the system is set to target the $2000.00 price range for the 930cfm body and comes as a complete package. The Throttle body bolts in place of a Holley or similar 4 barrel and has the same overall dimensions, so the air cleaner will remain in the same location. SELF-TUNING COMPUTER The computer is the first self-tuning system available and is a speed density ,closed loop system . We use a PLX wide band (included) and the system delivers hands free tuning at all loads and RPM?s. The key to our system is its VE SYNC which reads the air fuel of your engine and re-writes the base fuel table to deliver the exact Target Air Fuel ratio desired for your engine. This can be done while viewing the info on a laptop, or without one. The system re-programs itself so the oxygen sensor does not have to work to correct an inaccurate calibration each time you run your engine. Once this is done you can leaved the O2 in place to compensate for various fuel and elevation differences. A video demonstrating a system being tuned will be posted on the site shortly so keep checking it out. ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS The kit comes with a high pressure fuel pump that mounts on the chassis at or below the fuel tank . For over 500HP and larger applications, an ultra-high performance pump is required for an additional charge. Also there is no need for a return fuel line although one may be used along with an EFI bypass regulator. The return-less system is included in the kit but the bypass style system is not included and can be purchased separately. ECU & WIRING DETAILS The computers dimensions are 6-inches long, 4.5-inches wide, and 1.65-inches high; and it can be mounted either under the dash or in another dry location. All wiring features weather pack connectors and are completely terminated although you are required to install an o2 sensor bung in the exhaust pipe. This can be done in one side only by any muffler shop and the bung is included. SYSTEMS AVAILABLE There BossEFI comes in 2 sizes, 930 & 1200 cfm ratings. The 930 will handle up to 650hp and the 1200 is good for 900+hp with the correct size injectors. There is a simple formula to size the injectors. We use 4 so the math is: HP divided by 2 /4 = injector size. The computer is capable of very small pulse widths so it is better to be a little large in this area. An example of this is 500hp/2/4 = 62.5lbs. In this case we would use 63 lb injectors.For Dual Quad systems we would have 8 injectors so HP/2/8= injector size. 500hp/2=250/8=31.25. We would supply 8 32lb injectors in the kit. You can use this simple math to work up any HP combo you have. This is a Quick tip only,call us if you are un sure. All necessary sensors are included so this is a true bolt on system!! RELEASE DATE & FURTHER INFO We will be sending out periodic emails with more details about the BossEFI system up to the Spring 2007 release date. Please stay tuned, as THE MOST EXCITING NEW PERFORMANCE PRODUCT IN 20 YEARS is about to REVOLUTIONIZE your vehicle. Thanks for your interest, RetroTek Speed _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com