Justin, that the hardened seats are no longer available should tell you something -- they aren't really required! I ran a 196 for years with no seats. You have to really hammer on an engine to cause any appreciable wear in the valve seats before the rest of the engine is worn out. You might have to have a valve job in 80K miles vs. 100K miles with the hard seats (or leaded fuel). Most older model heads are good for at least two valve regrinds before the seats are recessed to much. I never recommend the seats unless the valve seats are recessed (which would be due to normal wear/high mileage). Then it's generally cheaper to get another head. Of course that's not so easy with the 196! I'm sure standard replaceable seats should still be available if not hardened. _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com