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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Primitive form of cylinder de-activation (Tom Jennings)
2. Re: Trans for 72 232 six (Tom Jennings)
3. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 10, Issue 42 (igclube@xxxxxxxxx)
4. OBDI/II Readers (farna@xxxxxxx)
5. Re: OBDI/II Readers (farna@xxxxxxx)
6. Re: carb for 87 360 (Todd Tomason)
7. big mess o auctions (Eddie Stakes)
8. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 10, Issue 42 (igclube@xxxxxxxxx)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:11:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Primitive form of cylinder de-activation
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Matt Haas wrote:
> Luckily, no AMC's were harmed in this entire fiasco.
And that's what matters most!
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:21:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans for 72 232 six
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Tom Jennings wrote:
> > For some reason the AW4 always slips my mind!
Holy crap, my spreadsheet says very nice things about those
gear ratios in my 258 Hornet, 2.73 axle. The 3rd-gear column
is what I see now in top gear on the A904 I have.
First is lower (2.8 vs 2.54) too, second, third the same. My
care behaves fine in 2, 3, but 1st is a little steep; 2.8 would
be a big improvement!
70 Hornet engine carb 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
RPM CFM MPH MPH MPH MPH TIRE DATA
1000 60 09.8 18.0 27.6 36.8 195/70-14 == width/aspect-wheel
Axle ratio n:1 2.73 1100 66 10.8 19.8 30.3 40.4 Width: 205
Tire diameter 25.3 1200 72 11.8 21.6 33.1 44.1 Aspect: 70
1300 78 12.8 23.4 35.8 47.8 Wheel: 14
1400 84 13.8 25.2 38.6 51.5 Diameter: 25.3
1500 90 14.8 27.0 41.4 55.1
1600 96 15.8 28.8 44.1 58.8
RPM interval 100 1700 102 16.7 30.6 46.9 62.5 Factory stock tire size is:
1800 108 17.7 32.4 49.6 66.2 Width: 205
AW4 auto 1900 113 18.7 34.2 52.4 69.8 Aspect: 70
First 2.8 2000 119 19.7 36.0 55.1 73.5 Wheel: 14
Second 1.53 2100 125 20.7 37.8 57.9 77.2 Diameter: 25.3
Third 1 2200 131 21.7 39.6 60.7 80.9
Fourth 0.75 2300 137 22.6 41.4 63.4 84.5 Weber 32/36 DGEV
2400 143 23.6 43.2 66.2 88.2 primary 130 cfm
Engine CID 258 2500 149 24.6 45.0 68.9 91.9 secondary 170 cfm
VE 0.8 2600 155 25.6 46.9 71.7 95.6
2700 161 26.6 48.7 74.4 99.3
2800 167 27.6 50.5 77.2 102.9
2900 173 28.6 52.3 80.0 106.6
3000 179 29.5 54.1 82.7 110.3
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:50:30 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] OBDI/II Readers
To: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
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These guys sell cables and serial cable kits (USB assembled cable only), and have a nice listing of free and commercial OBDI & II software. This is the BEST page I've seen on the subject yet! Looks like I may have found a use for my old Pentium 133 laptop, though I'll probably use my PII 366.
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)
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From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
<BIG SNIP>
> Now I've got ODB II problems as the SES Light is on in the 98 Altima, geez,
> first problem in 124,000 miles! They just don't build'em like they used too! Who
> makes the best all around OBDI and OBD II Tool????
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:25:46 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] OBDI/II Readers
To: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
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<112220060325.3701.4563C33A0003AF0400000E7521603831160E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
DOH!! Didn't include the link!!
http://www.akmcables.com/dss.htm
I did check all the links on the page -- most are for commercial products now, though some of the GM code readers are still freebies. Seems the good ones that started out as freebies quickly realized there was a market for such devices! The best one seems to be "Alex's OBDII Scan Tool", or at least the most cost effective. For under $200 you have a software and cable package that will read most vehicles (only a few it won't read).
original message --------------
> These guys sell cables and serial cable kits (USB assembled cable only), and
have a nice listing of free and commercial OBDI & II software. This is the BEST
page I've seen on the subject yet! Looks like I may have found a use for my old
Pentium 133 laptop, though I'll probably use my PII 366.
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)
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From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Harrel,
> Depending on your thoughts and the Strokers compression and fuel needs you may
> well be better off to go with the ecu triggering the fan for A/C and an
> aftermarket switch to control it's running due to engine temp. The Cherokee Ecu
> triggers the fan somewhere in the 218* range IIRC. This will likely Be a little
> too hot for a low buck Stroker to be happy. No the Pacer has about as much
> brille area as an XJ so you may be able to get by with it. YOu could always give
> it a shot and add the aftermarket switch later.
> In my non stroked 69 American with the Wrangler EFI I have neither!
> Wrangler Ecu's don't have fan drivers as they use mechanical fans. I had run out
> of cash when I was finishing mine up. So I rewired a bay in the Wrangler Relay
> box to use to locate the cooling fan. Since I was broke I dug up a simple rocker
> switch that was leftover from some old project and mounted the rocker switch in
> the corner against the kick panel out of sight. It's a blue lighted rocker so I
> know when it is on.
> After I got the thing together with said low buck switch and started driving
> it I was nervous I would forget to trigger the fan. I soon learned that with the
> fairly new two core Modine radiator and the open grille area of the American
> that I almost don't need the electric fan! I have never actually had to turn the
> fan on! Even stuck in traffic on a 90* day I get rolling just enough to cool the
> car without the electric fan!
> No A/C on my car helps, plus the standard trans. I actually have the switch
> to install, but no real motivation to do so! I know, I should, I'll add it to
> the list for this winter.
> I've got 5 days off after being back at work for two days in 4 months! One
> goal is to get the Pin in/Pin out schematis of the YJ/XJ EFI manual scanned and
> uploaded onto the Strokers site. It'ss make it lots easier for all to have
> available.
> Now I've got ODB II problems as the SES Light is on in the 98 Altima, geez,
> first problem in 124,000 miles! They just don't build'em like they used too! Who
> makes the best all around OBDI and OBD II Tool????
> --
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
>
>
> ---- f_swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > That's what I did Harrel. The auxilliary fan on a Jeep is wired
> > through a relay that comes on with the temp switch or when the A/C
> > request line goes high IIRC. So there really is no specific fan
> > wiring, at least for the Renix (87-90) system. The later system is
> > basically the same way, but with a computer control line for the fan
> > instead of a mechanical switch. Doesn't matter if you use the computer
> > line for a primary cooling fan (single electric only, no auxilliary or
> > mechanical) or an auxilliary fan. The computer (or mechanical switch)
> > will activate the relay when the temp goes up in the engine. I prefer
> > the mechanical switch because I can (and do) use an adjustable type. I
> > can turn the fan on quicker in the summer and slower in the winter for
> > slightly quicker warm-ups. That's as long as the thermostat is
> > cooperating!
> >
> >
> > --- In strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harrel \(shop\)" <harrel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like I should wire the original Pacer compressor clutch
> > power lead into the computer and let it control the rest...(cooling
> > fan, compressor cycling, IAC) Would that work? Does the Cherokee
> > cycle with a low-side pressure switch or a temperature bulb? How
> > would each connection below be used?
> > >
> > > 27. LB A/C Cycling Switch (Alldata names it as 'A/C request')
> > > 28. LG A/C Pressure Switch Output (Alldata names it as 'A/C select')
> > > 34. DB/OR A/C Compressor Relay (Alldata names it as 'A/C relay')
> > >
> > > Sorry I am such a neophyte when it comes to these Jeeps!
> > > Thanks for all of your time!
> > > Harrel
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:07:09 -0600
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] carb for 87 360
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If it were me, I would buy new. An Edelbrock 1406 would be about right. 600
cfm, electric choke. $265.96 from Summit Racing. Is this the motor that Joe
Gray has for sale?
Todd
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 11:46, L. D. Lyons wrote:
> I might buy a 87 360 but needs a carb, has edelbrock performer intake.
> does any one have a carb for sale for this engine. Butch Lyons
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:53:41 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] big mess o auctions
To: <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sure wished ebay would give some warning when they are going to have a
special like the 20 cent listing thing. This time I got in at night and
several emails from fellow AMC fans mentioned it. Thanks! So I unloaded a
mess of stuff in about 3 hours, there are 68-69 AMX Javelin lenses, GTO
seats, gaskets, door guts, door panels, books, posters, photos, just a big
mess o stuff. So go click here:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZeddiestakes
to view all my auctions, thanks should anyone bid or buy, and everyone have
a Happy Thanksgiving.
Eddie Stakes
*PS the miniature AMC Dealerships and Factories go onto Ebay Tues Nov 28th
all at no reserve. To view them click on some of these:
main link off my site with descriptions, below this link are some of the
photos!
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amcdealerships/amc_miniature_dealership.htm
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amcdealerships/amcdealership27.jpg
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amcdealerships/amcdealership26.jpg
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amcdealerships/amcdealership14.jpg
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amcdealerships/amcdship23.jpg
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amcdealerships/amcdship35.jpg
sort of like a double shameless plug! Everyone have good Thanksgiving.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
Email is currently HEAVY
5-12 day reply times, call if important
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 7:0:20 -0200
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