DOH!! Didn't include the link!! http://www.akmcables.com/dss.htm I did check all the links on the page -- most are for commercial products now, though some of the GM code readers are still freebies. Seems the good ones that started out as freebies quickly realized there was a market for such devices! The best one seems to be "Alex's OBDII Scan Tool", or at least the most cost effective. For under $200 you have a software and cable package that will read most vehicles (only a few it won't read). original message -------------- > These guys sell cables and serial cable kits (USB assembled cable only), and have a nice listing of free and commercial OBDI & II software. This is the BEST page I've seen on the subject yet! Looks like I may have found a use for my old Pentium 133 laptop, though I'll probably use my PII 366. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Harrel, > Depending on your thoughts and the Strokers compression and fuel needs you may > well be better off to go with the ecu triggering the fan for A/C and an > aftermarket switch to control it's running due to engine temp. The Cherokee Ecu > triggers the fan somewhere in the 218* range IIRC. This will likely Be a little > too hot for a low buck Stroker to be happy. No the Pacer has about as much > brille area as an XJ so you may be able to get by with it. YOu could always give > it a shot and add the aftermarket switch later. > In my non stroked 69 American with the Wrangler EFI I have neither! > Wrangler Ecu's don't have fan drivers as they use mechanical fans. I had run out > of cash when I was finishing mine up. So I rewired a bay in the Wrangler Relay > box to use to locate the cooling fan. Since I was broke I dug up a simple rocker > switch that was leftover from some old project and mounted the rocker switch in > the corner against the kick panel out of sight. It's a blue lighted rocker so I > know when it is on. > After I got the thing together with said low buck switch and started driving > it I was nervous I would forget to trigger the fan. I soon learned that with the > fairly new two core Modine radiator and the open grille area of the American > that I almost don't need the electric fan! I have never actually had to turn the > fan on! Even stuck in traffic on a 90* day I get rolling just enough to cool the > car without the electric fan! > No A/C on my car helps, plus the standard trans. I actually have the switch > to install, but no real motivation to do so! I know, I should, I'll add it to > the list for this winter. > I've got 5 days off after being back at work for two days in 4 months! One > goal is to get the Pin in/Pin out schematis of the YJ/XJ EFI manual scanned and > uploaded onto the Strokers site. It'ss make it lots easier for all to have > available. > Now I've got ODB II problems as the SES Light is on in the 98 Altima, geez, > first problem in 124,000 miles! They just don't build'em like they used too! Who > makes the best all around OBDI and OBD II Tool???? > -- > Mark Price > markprice242ATadelphia.net > Morgantown, WV > > > ---- f_swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > That's what I did Harrel. The auxilliary fan on a Jeep is wired > > through a relay that comes on with the temp switch or when the A/C > > request line goes high IIRC. So there really is no specific fan > > wiring, at least for the Renix (87-90) system. The later system is > > basically the same way, but with a computer control line for the fan > > instead of a mechanical switch. Doesn't matter if you use the computer > > line for a primary cooling fan (single electric only, no auxilliary or > > mechanical) or an auxilliary fan. The computer (or mechanical switch) > > will activate the relay when the temp goes up in the engine. I prefer > > the mechanical switch because I can (and do) use an adjustable type. I > > can turn the fan on quicker in the summer and slower in the winter for > > slightly quicker warm-ups. That's as long as the thermostat is > > cooperating! > > > > > > --- In strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harrel \(shop\)" <harrel@...> wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like I should wire the original Pacer compressor clutch > > power lead into the computer and let it control the rest...(cooling > > fan, compressor cycling, IAC) Would that work? Does the Cherokee > > cycle with a low-side pressure switch or a temperature bulb? How > > would each connection below be used? > > > > > > 27. LB A/C Cycling Switch (Alldata names it as 'A/C request') > > > 28. LG A/C Pressure Switch Output (Alldata names it as 'A/C select') > > > 34. DB/OR A/C Compressor Relay (Alldata names it as 'A/C relay') > > > > > > Sorry I am such a neophyte when it comes to these Jeeps! > > > Thanks for all of your time! > > > Harrel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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