I'm with Frank on this, he is just more eloquent than I am. SNIP A Dodge Caravan minivan, for example, gets significantly better gas mileage than a 1978 VW Beetle. A 2WD Chevy Blazer SUV gets the same gas mileage as a 1995 Chevy Caprice - one of the last large station wagons (20 mpg SNIP My Chrysler Town and Country, with a 3.8 V6 (232 cu in) advertised and sold as a mini-van (Yuh!) a replacement for a station wagon (Possibly a 440 cu in Chrysler T&C or a 225 slant 6 Valiant), smogged as a light truck (is that a FordF-350 with a camper on it?) but referred to in this article as an SUV (Sport Utility Vehicle and just what the heck is one of these figments of advertising imagination, just what is it that is Sporty about a Van and with it's leather interior and full rugs on the floor where is the utility? The same argument can be applied to a Navigator) Is quite frankly also driven to the Junk Yards, carries grungy auto parts (with a drop cloth over everything) and makes long distant trips in the lap of Luxury (I side with Joe here) and is also used to function as a delivery vehicle for S&S Express delivery gets 13.2 mpg on a delivery route (with the A/C on), 15.6 mpg on per call pick up's and 24mpg on the open road w/ cruise and A/C and the CD player playing. This is significantly better than my 1967 383 Chrysler that averaged less than 12 mpg the whole time I owned it, but my 1991 Mitsubishi Expo LRV (a baby van that carried almost as much as my T&C but pulling a trailer it would) averaged 29 mpg over 15 years and 270,000 miles and never went through a transmission or a clutch. The reason for trading cars, I needed something that was bigger and the miles were beginning to stress the Mitsu. What have I learned since I traded off? The jury is still out but-------it may take less miles to Stress a Chrysler and my 390 5 speed Javelin can get better gas mileage but not under all conditions. John _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com