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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: t-5 transmission for 304 (John Elle)
   2. Free 258 Must Go (Mr. AMC)
   3. Re: SX/4 in salvage (Jim Blair)
   4. Re: t-5 transmission for 304 (Mark Price)
   5. Re: Jeep? Ford? same difference (hot rod chassis!) (Jim Blair)
   6. Re: 1953 2 door SEDAN NASH Airflite for sale (Jim Blair)
   7. For Sale: 1969 AMC Ambassador SST (Station Wagons)
   8. Re: SX/4 in salvage (Tom Jennings)
   9. Re: Jeep? Ford? same difference (hot rod chassis!) (Tom Jennings)
  10. Smog Pump & Brackets on Ebay (Ron Akerman)
  11. Re: RHD conversion (amckiwi)
  12. Wanted (namdra@xxxxxxxx)
  13. Re: For Sale: 1969 AMC Ambassador SST (Jay)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:14:07 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] t-5 transmission for 304
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000e01c6ef25$ae525ea0$f9dd0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

 
SNIP
i didn't catch what dave wanted to put his t5 into
and i'm not sure the 'stang loc would work as well in a hornet.
SNIP
Once again, that may be personal preference, but I'll let you know when
I get it in one 
of my two Hornets.  So far I think it will be 'jus fine. 
John
 


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:19:03 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Free 258 Must Go
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <29820-45302CF7-282@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

Posted to the AMX files and Bart's list and also to the E-mail provided
to the person looking for the engine in N.Y. City. No response. Next
saturday it goes to the dump if no respond from anyone. Might keep it
till the end of the month depending on my son's work schedule if I hear
from someone who really need's it. In reality next saturday it must go.
All junk in my storage room goes as my son has his bosses truck to haul
all of it out. As I am disabled and on SS disability I have to cut back
and cannot no longer to pay the storage. Davis all parts promised are
still yours and will be or are in my garage at my hone..  
 "Doc"



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:01:21 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] SX/4 in salvage
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F38D6EFCB557779DC069987AC0B0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

A: Around here they started puncturing tanks and/or draining all fuel to 
keep idiots from removing tanks with a torch (can you say BOOM!!! I knew you 
could... at least once!) There have been numerous fires at yards in recent 
years from idiots with no brain control. (Duh!!!! I'll just drain this gas 
into an open pail about 10 feet from a cutting torch and $100,000 worth of 
building/machinery and see what happens. Yup! Yup!)


From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] SX/4 in salvage
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610122042.k9CKgkK13897@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Justin Shelton <hydeparker@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" I stopped in at the South Side Salvage in South Bend, IN
"
" []
"
" Here's something weird about that yard: when I went to pay for
a door
" handle I pulled, there was a sign up that said something like
"As of
" January 1, 2006, we can no longer let customers purchase gas
tanks or
" fuel pumps."  Is this weird, or what?  I know that it is
illegal to
" sell a used cat converter off a car, but I'd never heard
anything
" about fuel tanks and pumps.  Maybe it's their own policy and
not
" state law.  Odd.

dunno about in, but gasoline is a hazardous waste in this state
so the
first thing most yards do here is yank and crush the tanks -
even on
driveable cars.
________________________________________________________________________
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internet rambler                            is to see what all
have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none
thought

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:04:20 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] t-5 transmission for 304
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <10988349.1160787860461.JavaMail.root@web37>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I believe it is intended for a 62 Classic.
No details on what seats he has or intends to use so I don't know if he will ahve shifter location issues. I was pointing out the source trans for the input length.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> " From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
> " 
> " Also the stock Mustang location for the shifter is perfect for what 
> " I like in my Javelin. 
> 
> that's fine, but i didn't catch what dave wanted to put his t5 into
> and i'm not sure the 'stang loc would work as well in a hornet.
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:10:02 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Jeep? Ford? same difference (hot rod chassis!)
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F352F4C7D1A7A0B36BDE02AC0B0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

A: CJ came 2wd (DJs) and so did Comanches (I thought about chopping down a 
cab and using the uniframe for a buggy) so solid front axles are easy to 
come by (just ask and I'll post an enquiry to the Comanche group I'm on. I'm 
sure you can have your choice for @$50 or so) Even a Grand Wagoneer frame 
would work, but '73 and older are narrower (at least in front)


From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
	<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Jeep? Ford? same difference (hot rod
chassis!)
To: <tomj@xxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:

<092D8CF6635129428E9B66DC582C3B3D0198712E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Problem: Jeep CJ wheelbase is damned short!! Might work with an
old 50s
Willys Jeep pick-up chassis, or even an FSJ Wagoneer/Cherokee.
No matter
what you do it will sit high and require a new front axle, so
costs is
going to be up there.

A T bucket on a Jeep chassis might work though. Postal Jeeps are
2WD.
They use a tube axle in front, more or less a straight pipe
replacing
diff and axle tubes.

I think you'd be better off with a T style chassis. It won't
cost any
more once you figure all the mods if you build it yourself from
2x3 or
2x4 tubing, and salvage a straight axle (or buy used). Run the
big
exhaust on the outside of the body like some of the early Indy
cars,
just dip enough on the right side that you don't inadvertently
rest your
left elbow on it!

--excerpts from original message---------------
But then I stumbled upon photos of a 1984 Jeep CJ chassis --
it's of course just a pair of rails that suuuure looks a lot
like a 32 Ford! (If you take off your glasses and squint.)

2) Go further and strip out the front axle. I've never heard
of a short jeep w/2wd, but what do I know. But of course a beam
axle would do just fine -- lots of parts there!

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:34:58 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1953 2 door SEDAN NASH Airflite for sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY114-F166A1E78ACC366A7B7C64CAC0B0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

A: I tried to find some pics of this car (google was no help this time) but 
thought I'd point out the "new" Chrysler Airflite. 
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=1627


From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1953 2 door SEDAN NASH Airflite for sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<20061011165110.72014.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Located in central Illinois. Rare 2 door sedan..NOT
hardtop. 1953 Nash Airflite., No engine/trans. NEAT
hot rod project,swap onto newer frame for a full on
custom!!Good doors,1/4 panels,etc. Needs floor repair.
$350. Had to move out of garage to re-do garage. NOW
paying storage on this!! MUST move! Please contact
direct. Thanks,Joe. 309-338-3210(cell)

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:24:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Station Wagons <stationwagonsnortheast@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] For Sale: 1969 AMC Ambassador SST
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20061014022420.41401.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

1969 AMC Ambassador SST two door hardtop,
Has the AMX 390 engine, originally equipped with dual exhaust, column
shift automatic, power steering, power drum brakes, AM radio, bucket
seats, A/C, tilt wheel. Interior is the Charcoal gray vinyl exterior
was originally Regatta Blue now painted white with black vinyl roof.
Not currently running and the body is a little rusty. deserves a
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:50:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] SX/4 in salvage
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610132046130.7205@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Jim Blair wrote:

> A: Around here they started puncturing tanks and/or draining all fuel to 
> keep idiots from removing tanks with a torch (can you say BOOM!!! I knew you 
> could... at least once!) There have been numerous fires at yards in recent 
> years from idiots with no brain control. (Duh!!!! I'll just drain this gas 
> into an open pail about 10 feet from a cutting torch and $100,000 worth of 
> building/machinery and see what happens. Yup! Yup!)

I'll second that -- for about two weeks I worked in a wrecking
yard in Bremerton Washington -- I'm no wimp or quitter, but those
guys were insane imbeciles -- they were going to die/get maimed.
No thanks!

In fact, the one job I recall was yanking a torque tube rear
from some big AMC. The car was stacked on other cars, and as it
slid off to one side, about to kill me and the mouth-breather
I'm working with, he jammed a driveshaft or something to prop
the rambler up to the next car over, which leaned, but he kept
yanking on the TT. I was actually scared for my life.

Would that clown (and his boss) torch out a gas tank? Oh yeah.

Some people simply need to be told what to do and how to do it.



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:55:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Jeep? Ford? same difference (hot rod chassis!)
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610132050370.7205@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Jim Blair wrote:

> A: CJ came 2wd (DJs) and so did Comanches (I thought about chopping down a 
> cab and using the uniframe for a buggy) so solid front axles are easy to 
> come by (just ask and I'll post an enquiry to the Comanche group I'm on. I'm 
> sure you can have your choice for @$50 or so) Even a Grand Wagoneer frame 
> would work, but '73 and older are narrower (at least in front)

Didn't realize that! I've not abandoned this jeep/rod idea.


> From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"

> Problem: Jeep CJ wheelbase is damned short!! Might work with an
> old 50s
> Willys Jeep pick-up chassis, or even an FSJ Wagoneer/Cherokee.
> No matter
> what you do it will sit high and require a new front axle, so
> costs is
> going to be up there.

I'm not convinced that the jeep chassis as rod chassis will
be costly. I've done no work/research on bodies (and I am not
happy with Ford cliches) but removing the jeep body bracketry,
and repositioning the rear shock mounts, fillin unsightly holes
if body sits on rails, getting new leaf springs all around,
and a beam/tube axle, is not that big a deal.

Clearly the AMC driveline stuff bolts in. 

I'm not saying body/tub is trivial, it's not. That's next,
then I iterate from chassis up again.


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:03:03 -0600
From: "Ron Akerman" <amc70jav@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Smog Pump & Brackets on Ebay
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY103-F3105C32B8A7D751597FC2BDA0B0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140041345548&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:52:07 +1000
From: "amckiwi" <amckiwi@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] RHD conversion
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <006c01c6ef5d$442ec2b0$0200a8c0@tower>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="windows-1250"

I have heard of some large trucks having this conversion

-----Original Message-----
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Of farna@xxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2006 9:51 PM
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Subject: [AMC-List] RHD conversion

The subject of RHD conversions came up a few days ago, and I mentioned a
chain drive Jeep conversion. Want to see one? Go to E-bay and search for
item # 110042028809.

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:05:16 -0500
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Wanted
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20061014.020528.-16498707.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
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Driveshaft and front yoke for 66-69 V-8 American.

Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA     NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
          JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974,  NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766


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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 07:27:23 -0400
From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] For Sale: 1969 AMC Ambassador SST
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <003901c6ef83$b9786ff0$c5c41ecf@Ciampi>
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where is it and what is the asking price?  How about photos?

Jay


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