From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mid Engine d Hot Rod On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Brien Tourville wrote: > here's my buckets worth: > > take a hammer - place it on a cleared table. > > spin the hammer - try to make a circle. > > you can't. Hmm well try this: perform your test twice. Once with the hammer head pointing forward, and once again with it pointing backwards. Compare results. === === two dents in the floor Tom - ~! some 'concepts' - cars & aircraft - seem good, in narrow applications they are - street apps. is a whole 'nuther world of bad road angles, oil sweat pavement and many, many, stupid drivers......... front engined cars will let you know ahead of time when you're at a traction limit - you can kick the rear end out to correct perhaps - unless you're running a '56 Golden Hawk with the 352 PACKARD 'boat-anchor' up front stuffed in the Studebaker 'rubber-frame'......... with this car - the condition of 'Snow-Plowing' thru curves was coined - nose would wash out as the rear lifted - and swung....... while seeking traction on the white wall portion of the side walls........fun....! the PORSCHE 914 mid engined was OK with the 4cyl. 2.0 yet as weight went up with the 914/6 GT , the Factory added 'Fender Flares' to accommodate the wider rims on the Performance versions - but they saw the writing on the wall as to their current technology and what could be 'death ride for cutie' . they hung into curves until they let go - without much warning and not many techniques could recover control once lost - rear didn't swing out as much as you left the road pancaking sideways. the WW-II AirCobra mid engined fighter was hated by American Pilots - so we sent them to the Russians....that should tell you something. plane did not handle well at all beyond a ground attack aircraft. saw one pilot gesturing the handling to a group - yaw & pitch body language was terrifying to anyone who has flown. Rear engined Formula 1 cars of the 60s were designed for that long wide oval track - check the amount of 'squat' they dialed into that IRS coupled with humongous at that time tyre widths just to stay glued. That era had the most dramatic wrecks of most racing history. Current V-12 Ferraris' , have a habit of lifting their front suspensions over small road irregularities at slower speeds and ending up in store fronts - European Racing - seen a few film clips featuring this 'Option'. Moms' 356 did this to me during some spirited back road rallying against a TR Spitfire - tyres finally bit as I headed into the Apple Orchard - didn't wrap the car up that afternoon. I liked your original concept of an early Track Roadster with the Navarro 6 - I'm sure all that plumbing could be arranged for a high 'drool factor' eye candy without fogging up your goggles. A tandem seating cigar style Roadster with the short wind screens & pop up baby carriage style 'convertible' roofing for those sudden storm situations is taking up room on my sketch pad. I live in a dirt track racing area - going to do some digging on frames once I settle on the 60s' race body shell I want to copy. Soap box Derby Revisited :) =Bt= milnersXcoupe _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com