Matt, The valley pan gasket has locating detents on the corners that push into the holes on the head to hold the gasket in place when you are installing intake. Do that and you should be able to get a couple bolts started. You mentioned something in your post that raises a question with me. You said, "I can't get the valley pan to line up properly in BETWEEN THE GASKETS and the new manifold" making me think you are trying to install a some other gasket along with the valley pan at the same time. Is that correct? The valley pan is the gasket so if you are trying to install that along with lets say the paper style Mr Gasket intake gasket, you will have a problem. Nick Alfano Alfano Performance Kenosha, WI. 53142 262-308-1302 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends Message: 5 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:53:08 -0400 From: Matthew Gracie <amc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Intake manifold installation. To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <451E92E4.8030001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm trying to install an Edelbrock Performer intake on a 360. The car is a 1977 Matador Coupe. I've got the old intake and everything off, and the regular intake gaskets are affixed to the heads. The problem I'm having is that I can't get the valley pan to line up properly in between the gaskets and the new manifold; it slides around every time I get the manifold on top of the engine. Is there some trick to this that I'm missing? Do I still need the valley pan, even with the regular gaskets in place? Could someone who's done this offer me a little guidance? --Matt _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com