" From: amc401z@xxxxxxx " " Hello All, " " I am presently running a Borg Warner T5 in my '73 Javelin, but am now " looking for a stronger transmission. Since I want to keep costs modest " and have 3.15 rear gears, I am looking for a wide ratio four-speed to " swap in. Wide ratio toploaders with their 2.78 first gear seem like " possible candiates. Has anyone ever done this swap? and if so, what " issues did you run into? It seems to the me the key issue would be " stickout length of the toploader input shaft. The short AMC " bellhousings measure about 6 5/8". A Ford T5 input shaft has a stickout " length of 7.18" which works fine with an AMC bell. Does anyone know " what the stickout length on a toploader is? " " Thanks, " Dave " ________________________________________________________________________ this swap is very easy! the 4sp toplopader is [big surprise] a direct swap for the -3sp- toploader -- which was used by amc in the late '70s as the t150. splines, pilot, bolt patterns and length are all identical. get a complete t150 setup and drop that toploader in. afaik the hardest thing will be locating the shifter. if you need really heavy duty you can have the toploader built with a 31-spline mainshaft. less well known is that the jeep t176/177/178 4sp are toploaders; if you want lower gears their guts can be put into an iron side-shifter case for a 3.01, 3.52, or 3.82 1st. what kind of engine/power are you running that the t5 isn't adequate? ford svt '7003x' t5s are good for 330 ft-lbs. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com