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Today's Topics:
1. Six in a Row - and - Scary (Brien Tourville)
2. BUMPER ENDS NEEDED_ come on people,help us out - con't
(Brien Tourville)
3. BUMPER ENDS NEEDED_ come on people, help us out - con't -
(Brien Tourville)
4. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 (Andrew Youssef)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:13:09 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Six in a Row - and - Scary
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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. Bart M. 73 Gremlin 360/T10 project no
turdblows,no magical 6 cyl pwr just balls out raw power!!
=== ===
I wonder........ is it 'paving the pavement' yet or still
growing Marigolds ?
milnersXcoupe
NEW YORK
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:16:41 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] BUMPER ENDS NEEDED_ come on people,help us out -
con't
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John needs the Spirit passenger side bumper ends -
I need the rear bumper ends - SX / 4 - or - Kammback.
Any SX/4 rear bumper ends taking up space & collecting
dust anywhere ?
Any leads appreciated !
milnersXcoupe
'Aero'
NEW YORK
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:22:30 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] BUMPER ENDS NEEDED_ come on people, help us out -
con't -
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <450DBC96.20277.3F47949@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date sent: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:00:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gregscram@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: x
To: hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx
In a message dated 9/15/06 11:17:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi !
looking for '81 -'82 SX/4 or Eagle Kammback plastic bumper ends.
Brien Tourville
NEW YORK
All I have is some bumpers off of a 82 spirit with the ends still on
them.
Greg - Gregscram@xxxxxxx
=== ===
Go for it John Elle !
milnersXcoupe
'AERO-WARRIOR'
NEW YORK
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:23:32 -0700
From: "Andrew Youssef" <andrew_y1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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please remove me from this mailing list.
thanks and all the best.
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:10:22 +0000
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. rear springs for the 1973 Matador 4-dr
(dornbos@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 2. Re: starting trouble in 88 cherokee...4.0L
(javelin@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
> 3. Rambler speedo cable (farna@xxxxxxx)
> 4. AMC drivers (farna@xxxxxxx)
> 5. Re: rear springs for the 1973 Matador 4-dr (Sandwich Maker)
> 6. I'm Home!! (farna@xxxxxxx)
> 7. AMC Performance Engine Book F/S (Jay)
> 8. Re: I'm Home!! (Mark Price)
> 9. Re: 1981 Gremlin X-06 (Eddie Stakes)
> 10. AMC drivers (Eddie Stakes)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 5:10:45 -0700
>From: <dornbos@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] rear springs for the 1973 Matador 4-dr
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <180819946.1158495045235.JavaMail.root@fepweb10>
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>Before I go through great lengths to research something that
someone else has already done, what is my "best" option for rear
springs for my 1973 4-dr. Matador? The rear is sagging and I need
to fix that. I am not concerned with stock vs. non-stock and would
tend towards the performance end of things and may someday tow with
this vehicle.
>
>Of course I could always put in the Air-Lift bags.
>
>I was hoping to find some progressive rate springs but my
preliminary research doesn't find any.
>
>Any comments, experience, ideas, cross references, web sites?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Doug
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 08:39:32 -0400
>From: javelin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] starting trouble in 88 cherokee...4.0L
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <1158496772.450d420491a52@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
>having starting trouble in cherokee...have fire going to coil but
nothing coming
>out of coil...also no fire going to injectors !! are there any
fuses for
>computer brain...any help greatly appreciated..thanx amc people
you have been
>you have been a great resource over the
years...javelin@xxxxxxxxxxxx Quoting
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Fw: 1969 AMX (Eddie Stakes)
> > 2. 65 Amer. Speedo reverser, AC install (Gary L. Kirk)
> > 3. BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY! LALALA...I can't hear you!
> > (jackbarncord@xxxxxxx)
> > 4. Re: 65 Amer. Speedo reverser, AC install (Mark Price)
> > 5. 1981 Gremlin X-06 (Brien Tourville)
> > 6. Eagle rear bumper ends - opinions - (Brien Tourville)
> > 7. Eagle rear bumper ends - opinions (John Elle)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:49:30 -0500
> > From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 1969 AMX
> > To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Mike Bocklund <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Message-ID: <012801c6d910$d8c45f10$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > 1969 AMXMike wants to know what is max size rima nd tire he can
put under his
> > 69 AMX. Anyone wishing to comment please post it here and also
please copy
> > your reply to Mike who would appreciate it, thanks in advance
to all who may
> > reply.
> > Eddie Stakes'
> > Planet Houston AMX
> > 713.464.8825
> > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.planethoustonamx.com
> > Email is currently HEAVY
> > 5-12 day reply times, call if important
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Bocklund Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:39 PM
> > Subject: 1969 AMX
> >
> >
> > Hi Eddie,
> >
> >
> > I am looking to upgrade the rim and tire size on the rear
wheels of my AMX.
> > My first question is: what are the largest rims that will
fit? Second
> > question: do you carry them? Third question: what's the price?
> >
> > Please note that I am not interested in shopping around. If
you've got a
> > solution for me (I want to jam as much rubber, especially
width, under the
> > stock fender as possible) let me know and we can get going on a
purchase.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Mike Bocklund
> >
> > Santa Rosa, CA
> >
> > (707) 577-0363 - work
> >
> > (707) 539-9392 - home
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:53:16 -0400
> > From: "Gary L. Kirk" <glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] 65 Amer. Speedo reverser, AC install
> > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Message-ID: <001301c6d911$596b8d50$6501a8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Some time ago Frank suggested that maybe the problem with my
speedo was that
> > it was being turned in reverse. I tend to believe it as I know
the tranny is
> > not original to the car, and the old cable had the tranny end
hose clamped
> > together. I always thought it was clamped because someone
wanted to shorten
> > it. I threw away the old cable. I have a new cable, it went in
just fine, but
> > neither of the heads that I have seem to work. Does anyone have
any more
> > thoughts on this and or some parts for sale?
> > Also, I purchased an under dash AC system for this car. I think
I am going to
> > have to find a way to mount the Power steering pump elswhere,
as I think the
> > compressor goes where it is. This is the 232 motor.
> > Does anyone have any thoughts and or parts for sale concerning
this?
> > Thank everyone for all their help with this, and in the past!
> > Gary Kirk
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:15:27 +0000
> > From: jackbarncord@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [AMC-List] BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY! LALALA...I can't hear
you!
> > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC List)
> > Message-ID:
> >
>
<091520062315.4167.450B340F0004ECC60000104721587667200B9D010C029D0E
0D050C0E06@xxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> > > LALALALALALALALALALLALALALALALA I cant hear you... !
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > > I drive older cars partly to SLOW THE HELL DOWN. It's also
why
> > > I'll never put electric wipers in my Rambler. If I wanted a
> > > new car, I'd drive a 1970!
> >
> > Can I get an AMEN?!?!
> >
> > Amen, Brother!
> >
> > I couldn't agree more. I get into my Hornet, plug in the
charger for my cell
> > phone and for about a half a second my brain wonders, "will
this work in
> > here?" Ha ha ha.... when I get in and start that car up I'm
transported back
> > in time when people needed to know how to drive, period.
> >
> > Thanks, Tom, I needed that.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:01:04 -0700
> > From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 65 Amer. Speedo reverser, AC install
> > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: "Gary L. Kirk" <glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx>
> > Message-ID: <12527926.1158368464602.JavaMail.root@web36>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > P/S steering was mounted on either side of the 232 so moving
the pump is not
> > a problem. Just find the setup you need.
> > I'd hold the speedo cabl under the dash and spin the cable
with the car on
> > jack stands and see wich way it turns. The compare that
rotation to the
> > speedo by spinning it with your fingers to see if the speedo
moves when you
> > spin it that way.
> > You can usually get the needle to jump by giving the endof the
speedo a
> > quick spin. Or if it is out you can use a drill at slow speed
to carefully
> > spin the speedo. If it is turning backwards I'd contact a
speedo shop to see
> > if they have a solution.
> > --
> > Mark Price
> > markprice242ATadelphia.net
> > Morgantown, WV
> >
> >
> > ---- "Gary L. Kirk" <glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Some time ago Frank suggested that maybe the problem with my
speedo was
> > that it was being turned in reverse. I tend to believe it as I
know the
> > tranny is not original to the car, and the old cable had the
tranny end hose
> > clamped together. I always thought it was clamped because
someone wanted to
> > shorten it. I threw away the old cable. I have a new cable, it
went in just
> > fine, but neither of the heads that I have seem to work. Does
anyone have any
> > more thoughts on this and or some parts for sale?
> > > Also, I purchased an under dash AC system for this car. I
think I am going
> > to have to find a way to mount the Power steering pump
elswhere, as I think
> > the compressor goes where it is. This is the 232 motor.
> > > Does anyone have any thoughts and or parts for sale
concerning this?
> > > Thank everyone for all their help with this, and in the past!
> > > Gary Kirk
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:30:59 -0400
> > From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] 1981 Gremlin X-06
> > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Message-ID: <450B53D3.22039.1A1A613@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/macsv
> >
> > -or-
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gremlin-X-06-1981-for-collectors-
> > unique-
> >
car_W0QQitemZ120030870882QQihZ002QQcategoryZ5357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte
m
> >
> >
> > better take a look at thIS one !
> >
> >
> >
> > Brien Tourville
> > NEW YORK
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:12:17 -0400
> > From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] Eagle rear bumper ends - opinions -
> > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Message-ID: <450B5D81.25250.1C7765C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> > Any opinions on the differences between
> > the Eagle Kammback rear bumper ends
> > and those of the SX/4 / 2dr. Sedan / Wagon ?
> >
> >
> > Is it just the length or are the overall shapes different ?
> >
> >
> > Brien Tourville
> > NEW YORK
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:20:49 -0700
> > From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] Eagle rear bumper ends - opinions
> > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Message-ID: <000001c6d979$cc004dc0$76dc0d82@john1>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Brien
> > If'n I had to guess, they might be the same as the Spirit and
SX4. If
> > that is the case, they are unique to the body style as the
bumpers are
> > different on the other cars. So it would be that the shape is
different.
> > Now if we can figure all of this out, I need a right side
(passenger
> > side) bumper extensions for my 1980 SPIRIT both front and
back.
> > The sun finally rotted them.
> > SNIP
> > Any opinions on the differences between
> > the Eagle Kammback rear bumper ends
> > and those of the SX/4 / 2dr. Sedan / Wagon ?
> > Is it just the length or are the overall shapes different ?
> > SNIP
> > John.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:45:46 +0000
>From: farna@xxxxxxx
>Subject: [AMC-List] Rambler speedo cable
>To: glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
>Message-ID:
>
<091720061345.25069.450D518A0000954C000061ED21602807410E029D0E00@at
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>
>
>Gary, what does the end on your speedo cable look like? AMC used
two that I can think of. The early one (Borg Warner trans) used a
round "plug" about an inch in diameter with the cable centered in
it. The end was made onto the cable. 1972 and later TF trans used a
larger, maybe 1.5" diameter hole in the trans, but that was for the
gear carrier (or adapter if you want to call it that). The cable
had a small screw on end about the same size as the speedo end.
>
>To check the speedo head, pull the cable from the trans and chuck
the end in a reversible drill. Spin it up, and if you get nothing,
reverse it. What year car are you working with? pre 63 speedos
turned one direction (but includes 63 American), 63+ the other.
Make sure the inner cable is long enough and seated. That can
sometimes be a problem.
>
>The compressor mount depends on the year of the engine and intake
manifold. Check the engine code number for year. Assuming the
manifolds haven't been changed, get the same year mounts. Factory
mounts should be easy enough to come by, but you'll need a York to
Sanden conversion mount. Those can be purchased from any A/C shop,
it's a popular swap. The Sanden takes much less room and power than
the old York. I'd only use a York in a restoration.
>
>--
>Frank Swygert
>Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>Magazine (AMC)
>For all AMC enthusiasts
>http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
>(free download available!)
>
>-----original message----------------------------
>From: "Gary L. Kirk" <glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] 65 Amer. Speedo reverser, AC install
>To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <001301c6d911$596b8d50$6501a8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Some time ago Frank suggested that maybe the problem with my
>speedo was that it was being turned in reverse. I tend to
>believe it as I know the tranny is not original to the car, and
>the old cable had the tranny end hose clamped together. I always
>thought it was clamped because someone wanted to shorten it. I
>threw away the old cable. I have a new cable, it went in just
>fine, but neither of the heads that I have seem to work. Does
>anyone have any more thoughts on this and or some parts for
>sale?
>Also, I purchased an under dash AC system for this car. I think
>I am going to have to find a way to mount the Power steering
>pump elswhere, as I think the compressor goes where it is. This
>is the 232 motor.
>Does anyone have any thoughts and or parts for sale concerning
>this?
>Thank everyone for all their help with this, and in the past!
>Gary Kirk
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:34:02 +0000
>From: farna@xxxxxxx
>Subject: [AMC-List] AMC drivers
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
>Message-ID:
>
<091720061434.27160.450D5CDA00087B7200006A1821602807410E029D0E00@at
t.net>
>
>
>John Elle has a good point. You can't expect a 26+ year old car to
be as comfortable or perform as well as a much newer one. Time and
technology march on. There's nothing wrong with a modern daily
driver to keep miles off your AMC. Use the driver to run around
most of the time and the AMC for the pleasure driving.
>
>Or you can do what I did -- take a less desireable AMC and
modernize it. My Classic wagon with 4.6L gets about the same
mileage and performance as a last year XJ Cherokee (2005?). It
rides much better than the original car or the Cherokee, of course,
and when it was a 4.0L got a little better mileage. I'm happy with
22-24 on the highway with the power I have though (16-18 in town,
and an overall average of 19-20). It has all the creature comforts
(AC, nice stereo, power seats -- don't have power windows or locks,
though I may add locks and will power the tailgate window) yet
still maintains the look and feel of an old car, mainly because
there are only subtle body mods and the dash remains stock. A
Concord or Hornet would be perfect for this kind of treatment. An
EFI four with the proper trans and gearing would have as much or
more power as the carbed 258 (1983 MPI Jeep XJ 2.5L = 130 hp @ 5250
rpm; 149 lb/ft @ 3250 rpm -- 1983 Eagle 258 = 110 hp @ 3200 rpm;
210 lb/ft @ 1800 !
> rpm). W
>hen you note the differences in rpm ranges you'll see why I say
"proper trans and gearing" is needed. The engine needs to cruise
near the torque peak. A 258 Concord works fine with 2.35:1 axle in
82-83, but the four would need a lot steeper gearing (82 Eagle used
a 3.54 w/998, 2.73 with manual trans and low first gear) to cruise
around 3000 rpm. It needs to be at that rpm even in OD in order for
it to pull without using MORE gas. OD only reduces engine rpm for
cars with low rear axles. It's not as much of a gas saver as people
think, since to low in the rpm range will increase fuel consumption
even if the engine will pull the vehicle. It will help fuel economy
some by having a lower first gear -- less work to get the car
moving -- and by keeping the engine in its most efficient rpm range
longer since it has more gears to choose from.
>
>Tom has ALMOST done this with his most recent car, the 70 Hornet.
With EFI on that six now it will be a bit of a hot rod, but won't
increase fuel mileage but 2-3 mpg.
>
>--
>Frank Swygert
>Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>Magazine (AMC)
>For all AMC enthusiasts
>http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
>(free download available!)
>
>-----------original message-----------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:38:51 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Exhaust Manifold Gasket and AMC drivers
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609151023320.6498@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, John Elle wrote:
>
> > As far as AMC for daily drivers, I gottem. I also have a Saturn
and a
> > Chrysler Town and Country.
> > Their ain't no comparison folks. As nice as my Spirit is for
cross
> > country traveling either of the other two cars get better
gasoline
> > mileage, the A/C works better, they travel quieter so I can
hear the
> > radio. The seats are more comfortable, the cruise control works
better
> > and many other basic options that are not available on my
Spirit make
> > traveling that much more enjoyable. Yupper. I have a deep
respect for
> > the versatility and pleasure my AMC cars have brought me and
believe me
> > they are nice. But the newer technology is far better and more
> > enjoyable. I had planned on restoring my Hornet Wagon and
keeping it,
> > but to be honest, my T&C is a far better vehicle so if I do
keep the
> > wagon, it will be to register it with the movie companies and
let it
> > bring me some income. My go fast street racer Javelin will
always have a
> > home with me but the Spirits day's are numbered now, I can see
it
> > coming. I put a lot of work in the car to keep it as a daily
driver but
> > to be honest. The Saturn has it beat any way you look at it.
>
>BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY! LALALALALALALALALALALALALLALALALALALA I
>cant hear you... !
>
>(After I wrote this it sounded to me like I was criticising your
>choices, John; I'm not. We're all different and make different
>decisions, I'm totally fine with that!)
>
>Yup, techology marched on since AMC. While I drive exclusively
>AMCs (commute in my 70 Hornet) we own one 1996 Civic DX; little
>motor, auto trans, A/C. Out-handles any AMC car (and not just
>due to weight). A/C is a no-brainer. And so on...
>
>Personally, I drive old stuff not just for the old-car-ness,
>but because I specifically don't like to take part in consumer
>culture; I make what I drive; I drive slower, and with windows
>open. I hear (and umm, feel) my car run. I'm no Luddite, I just
>like to pick which technologies I think will actually improve
>my life (radial tires anyone?).
>
>I could probably lop off 10 minutes each way to work if I drove
>75 - 80 like everyone else, but I don't want the stress, the
>competitiveness, or the gas consumption.
>
>I drive older cars partly to SLOW THE HELL DOWN. It's also why
>I'll never put electric wipers in my Rambler. If I wanted a
>new car, I'd drive a 1970!
>
>(I did install AC in the Rambler, I certainly enjoy it, but it
>really does change the driving experience.)
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:34:09 -0400 (EDT)
>From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] rear springs for the 1973 Matador 4-dr
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <200609171434.k8HEY9U19958@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>" From: <dornbos@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>"
>" Before I go through great lengths to research something that
someone
>" else has already done, what is my "best" option for rear springs
for
>" my 1973 4-dr. Matador? The rear is sagging and I need to fix
that. I
>" am not concerned with stock vs. non-stock and would tend towards
the
>" performance end of things and may someday tow with this vehicle.
>
>i would go to espo or eaton detroit and get oem hd
replacements. i
>did that on my '67 marlin and while stiffer than '60s standard
they
>weren't really -stiff-, just nicely firm.
>
>there are also some rock hard trailer towing rears.
>
>i also got stock hd fronts and put low pressure gas shocks all
around.
>great ride! very important if you want to tow; soft fronts with
stiff
>rears would unbalance your handling.
>
>" I was hoping to find some progressive rate springs but my
preliminary
>" research doesn't find any.
>
>iirc the stock hd are progressive.
>__________________________________________________________________
______
>Andrew Hay the genius nature
>internet rambler is to see what all
have seen
>adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none
thought
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:24:56 +0000
>From: farna@xxxxxxx
>Subject: [AMC-List] I'm Home!!
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
>Message-ID:
>
<091720061524.4378.450D68C7000E790C0000111A21602807410E029D0E00@att
.net>
>
>
>Just to let all know, I'm back home now! Got home around 05:00
this morning after going for an early breakfast. Slept on the plane
half way over, took a 3 hour "nap" this morning. Now to go get some
lunch!! Sure is nice to be back!!
>
>--
>Frank Swygert
>Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
>Magazine (AMC)
>For all AMC enthusiasts
>http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
>(free download available!)
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:05:51 -0400
>From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Performance Engine Book F/S
>To: "AMC LIST" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <003e01c6da8c$4c490bd0$399b1ecf@Ciampi>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Hi guys, I have an engine performance book, softbound, created by
Dick
>Datson in 1996 . It is all AMC engines. I have no need for it
anymore and if
>any one of you out there would like to own it for $1.00 plus
postage, let
>me know. I am cleaning out a bunch of literature that I have
accumulated
>over the past 20 years or so.
>
>Jay Ciampi
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:07:32 -0700
>From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] I'm Home!!
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: farna@xxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <2436092.1158527252784.JavaMail.root@web25>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>Glad to hear your safe!
>Welcome back!
>--
>Mark Price
>markprice242ATadelphia.net
>Morgantown, WV
>
>
>---- farna@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > Just to let all know, I'm back home now! Got home around 05:00
this morning after going for an early breakfast. Slept on the plane
half way over, took a 3 hour "nap" this morning. Now to go get some
lunch!! Sure is nice to be back!!
> >
> > --
> > Frank Swygert
> > Publisher, "American Motors Cars"
> > Magazine (AMC)
> > For all AMC enthusiasts
> > http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
> > (free download available!)
> > _______________________________________________
> > AMC-List mailing list
> > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
> >
> > or go to http://www.amc-list.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:50:02 -0500
>From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1981 Gremlin X-06
>To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <005f01c6dabf$3b3537f0$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Ironically it is ultra easy to get a vehicle from US into Mexico,
but very
>difficult to get one from Mexico into US. My suggestion would be
to work
>with the seller having him get it this side of the border, using a
temp visa
>as a tourist. It would probably be safer also changing hands and
currency or
>however ya'll decide to do it. You would worry about a title and
formalities
>later.
>http://tinyurl.com/macsv (ebay item #120030870882 )
>The vehicle however is in Guadalajara also. How far is that? I
have driven
>from Houston to Guadalajara straight thru (three of us taking
turns) and it
>was a little over 22 hours.
>
>Once the car is securely in the US (again I would suggest you meet
the
>seller this side of border, and I would also suggest if brought
inland to
>say, San Diego, Los Angeles, Phoenix or another POE, offer to pay
his
>airfare back to Guadalajara. Would be less than $200. A small
price to pay
>to have a unique one of a kind AMC/VAM here in US to show off at
next AMC
>meet!
>Eddie Stakes'
>Planet Houston AMX
>713.464.8825
>eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>www.planethoustonamx.com
>Email is currently HEAVY
>5-12 day reply times, call if important
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:08:44 -0500
>From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] AMC drivers
>To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Message-ID: <006001c6dabf$3b759c50$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>At a Goodyear tire store off Dairy Ashford here in Houston is a
sign that
>says "they don't build cars like that anymore, thank God!"
>
>I happened to be in my 72 Ambassador sST picking up wife Paige
from the
>First Tee where she had been playing cards, watching the Texans
get beat
>like a drum by Colts. Since the Goodyear was closed, and will be
until
>8:00am monday morning, I decided to park, and play scrabble
with the sign,
>both Noah & Jacob wondering what I'm spelling on the board.
>
>This was a no brainer, as the other side of sign facing the
subdivision had
>specials like 'tire alignment' and 'shocks' and 'special' so in a
mater of 3
>or so minutes the sign ended up looking like this: "AMC BUILT CARS
LIKE
>THAT, THANK GOD!" and I just wished I had my darned camera with me
to take a
>photo of that. Would have made a great photo, especially with this
thread.
>I'm guessing the people who come into tomorrow and see the sign
changed will
>wonder what a AMC is. I'm also wondering what all that north/south
traffic
>on that major throughfare who sees it will be thinking. "Mom,
what's a AMC?"
>
>I have driven nothing BUT American Motors cars since got my
license in 1976.
>And still do, my current daily drivers are a 81 Eagle wagon,
factory 4x4
>4cylinder 4speed that while it lacks in power, the gas mileage it
gets is
>above 20mpg.
>http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/1764174.html
>Another daily driver is my white 82 Eagle custom wagon.
>http://epage.com/js/mi/c0/1853682.html
>And as mentioned above, after running chores down Westheimer, "the
strip" in
>Houston, earlier today in 'Bessie' the 72 Ambassador SST wagon
>http://epage.com/js/mi/n0/1392356.html I don't really see what the
big deal
>is. There is millions of vehicles in Houston, Texas. There are
only 220
>'registered' street legal AMC vehicles registered in Harris county
out of
>billions.
>
>Not a lot of daily driver anything AMC out there anymore. For what
it is
>worth, there were billions of Ford and Chevy products made in the
60s/70s
>but few of them driven daily in 2006. As for creature comforts, I
agree with
>Frank, you can easily moderize any AMC product for daily driving
and
>comfort. A 1940s vehicle won't handle/drive like a 1950s, which
won't handle
>or drive like a 60s, and so on and so on. I rented a Ford Focus
almost a
>year ago and was impressed with it's agility, pickup for having a
three
>gerbil engine, and gas mileage. Woudl I buy one? No. I would lat
Paige buy
>one so I keep my streak going I guess at 326 AMCs.....
>
>Happy American Motoring,
>Eddie Stakes'
>Planet Houston AMX
>713.464.8825
>eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>www.planethoustonamx.com
>Email is currently HEAVY
>5-12 day reply times, call if important
>
>
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